HBCU in Atl (Atlanta, Adel, White: crime, houses, buy)

[Atlantasfinest]

Ashby Station is a easy walk from CAU and would only take 5 minutes. You could grab some groceries at Publix dine at a number of restaurants or get your haircut on the way home easily. Hopefully when the market turns they will be able to complete the Westside Village Retail Market area and have plans for the old Pascal Restaurant/Hotel Site It's a major eyesore and it's really a shame it exists in its current state.

Which gets me on another point...How can we attract private investment into the neighborhoods of the prominent major HBCU communities like Howard & The AUC (Where real estate is prime in ATL & DC)?

It really doesnt make sense that you have over 15,000 students, professors and administrators (In the AUC) basically sharing one campus and paying Private School money for the area to look like that. When the market turns around I think things will change since the sprawling University Homes Complex (The 1st Public Housing created for Blacks in the US) Is being demolished and there will be ample oppurunity for Public/Private enterprise to capitilize on the location and making the AUC community truly vibrant.

Imagine a beautiful campus surrounded by nice, housing, retail and restaurants to create a real college utopia that the people who attend, work and live in the communities deserve. I think It started with alot of the Black Professionals young and old abdonining these communities in the 1st place and moving to the suburbs and It's going to take a mix of transplants, alumni from the auc and hbcu and family ties to the area for it to retain it's history and true potential. With it's close proximity to downtown and being surrounded by 4 Marta Station (Ashby/Vine City on the E/W and Garnett/West End on the N/S) and being right off of Northside Drive/20/75/85 the oppurtunities are endless.

[bizchick86]

All very valid points. The development company, HJ Russell has been leading the way for the revitalization of these neighborhoods, which is a good start.

You kind of answerd your question as well. There has to be a mentality shift of African-Americans with resources to reinvest in their communities and not simply seek easy 9-5 jobs with companies we don't own. White developers may do this reinvestment in these neighborhoods, but that often lends to displacement of established, black residents. So we have to do it.

Also, for the current residents there, I think if people formed coalitions and lobbied together for the city and private developers to invest in the neigborhood, it can be done. They don't even need a lot of wealth, just a loud voice and will to fight.

There is a lot of potential in that area, and to give the West End some credit there has been a good bit of developing that's been going on in the last 3-4 years. It's been done to Castleberry Hill, it should happen in the AUC!

Originally Posted by Atlantasfinest

Ashby Station is a easy walk from CAU and would only take 5 minutes. You could grab some groceries at Publix dine at a number of restaurants or get your haircut on the way home easily. Hopefully when the market turns they will be able to complete the Westside Village Retail Market area and have plans for the old Pascal Restaurant/Hotel Site It's a major eyesore and it's really a shame it exists in its current state.

Which gets me on another point...How can we attract private investment into the neighborhoods of the prominent major HBCU communities like Howard & The AUC (Where real estate is prime in ATL & DC)?

It really doesnt make sense that you have over 15,000 students, professors and administrators (In the AUC) basically sharing one campus and paying Private School money for the area to look like that. When the market turns around I think things will change since the sprawling University Homes Complex (The 1st Public Housing created for Blacks in the US) Is being demolished and there will be ample oppurunity for Public/Private enterprise to capitilize on the location and making the AUC community truly vibrant.

Imagine a beautiful campus surrounded by nice, housing, retail and restaurants to create a real college utopia that the people who attend, work and live in the communities deserve. I think It started with alot of the Black Professionals young and old abdonining these communities in the 1st place and moving to the suburbs and It's going to take a mix of transplants, alumni from the auc and hbcu and family ties to the area for it to retain it's history and true potential. With it's close proximity to downtown and being surrounded by 4 Marta Station (Ashby/Vine City on the E/W and Garnett/West End on the N/S) and being right off of Northside Drive/20/75/85 the oppurtunities are endless.

[southkakkatlantan]

I graduated from Spelman (transferred there my sophomore year from Winthrop University in Rock Hill, SC).

It was empowering, intimidating and inspiring being amongst so many other intelligent, driven young African American women. I will never forget how, during orientation, we were forewarned not to compare Spelman to any other school as transfer students, and although that's hard not to do, it was good advice.

Any school is what you make of it. I chose Spelman because I wanted to go to an all-female school, I wanted a challenging academic environment, and I wanted to live in Atlanta The school also encourages their students to be well-rounded, and promotes giving back through community service. I also fell in love with the campus after scheduling a visit to stay overnight with a student there one week while I was in high school...

When choosing a school there are so many things to consider outside of whether it is an HBCU or not, including:

-Cost
-Professor:student ratio
-Prestige
-Facilities
-Reputation of administration
-Career placement services
-etc., etc...

I strongly encourage anyone who is in the midst of choosing where to attend undergrad to visit the campus, attend classes, set up an appointment with someone in administration (i.e., financial aid/registrar), as well as faculty (i.e., department Chair). Talk to the students there. Research the program you are interested in completing and assess how it fares with programs at other schools.

[afonega1]

Well how do some of you feel about the Valedictorian last year at Morehouse that was white?I personally thought it was a step in the right direction.He earned it.Although I still feel the need to have a outlet that promotes a positive image of black achievement at the highest level.

[PKCorey]

Afonega, its bout 10 to 15. My classes are closer to Spelman. I did walk yesterday in 12 mins to go home.

I was thinking the same thing in class yesterday. One of my classes has a great view of the GP building. The AUC needs to come together like Temple or John Hopkins and takeover alot of land. I mean, its so much opportunity on mlk dr and the whole general area.

The Publix shopping center is half done???

[MrMcCoySays]

Which HBCUs besides Morehouse and Spelman are a consistent pipeline to schools like Harvard, MIT, Yale, Princeton, etc.

[naomisday]

MrMcCoySays,

I believe that would be Fisk and Hampton...and Howard

[naomisday]

AtlantasFinest,

I really agree with your post....I was reading in a book how years ago...the areas around
Howard, Fisk and Spelman were the areas the Black Professionals lived in and now they
have totally changed...

Those were the neighborhoods that the Professors, Black Doctors, Lawyers Etc..lived in...

[Atlantasfinest]

Originally Posted by MrMcCoySays

Which HBCUs besides Morehouse and Spelman are a consistent pipeline to schools like Harvard, MIT, Yale, Princeton, etc.

I would add Xavier to the list but I wouild say that FAMU, Clark Atlanta and most of the Private and larger State HBCU's with National enrollment send a fair amount to Top Graduate and Professional schools all across the country.. Here are some more facts you can check out....

UNCF

HBCUs enroll upwards of 370,000 students and graduate a significant share of all African Americans receiving degrees. While comprising only three percent of the nation's 3,688 institutions of higher learning, the 105 HBCUs are responsible for producing approximately 23 percent of all bachelor's degrees, 13 percent of all master's degrees, and 20 percent of all first professional degrees earned by African Americans annually. Black colleges and universities contribute to the continuing rise of black intellectuals, professionals, and creative artists which is so evident throughout American society.

The following facts demonstrate the many successes of HBCUs:

Nine of the top ten colleges that graduate most of the African American students who go on to earn Ph.D.s are HBCUs.


More than 50 percent of the nation's African American public school teachers and 70 percent of African American dentists and physicians earned degrees at HBCUs.


Over half of all African American professionals are graduates of HBCUs


In 2000, Xavier University in New Orleans individually produced more successful African American medical school applicants (94) than Johns Hopkins (20), Harvard (37), and the University of Maryland (24) combined. Two other HBCUs also placed in the top ten producers of medical school applicants, including Morehouse (33), and Spelman (38).


Spelman and Bennett Colleges produce over half of the nation's African American women who go on to earn doctorates in all science fields; more than produced by the Ivy League's Seven Sisters combined (Barnard, Bryn Mawr, Mount Holyoke, Radcliffe, Smith, Wellesley, and Vassar Colleges).


HBCUs significantly contribute to the creation of African American science degree holders: agriculture (51.6 percent), biology (42.2 percent), computer science (35 percent), physical science (43 percent), and social science (23.2 percent).


HBCUs produce 44 percent of all African American bachelor's degrees awarded for communications technology, 33 percent of bachelor's degrees awarded for engineering technology, and 43 percent of bachelor's degrees awarded for mathematics, and HBCUs produce 40 percent of all African American doctorate degrees awarded for Communications.

The following HBCU facts and information was posted on the UNCF website

HBCU graduates are experts in their chosen field.

Over half of all African American professionals are graduates of HBCUs.

Nine of the top ten colleges that graduate the most African Americans who go on to earn Ph.D.s are HBCU graduates.

More than 50% of the nation’s African American public school teachers and 70% of African American dentists earned degrees at HBCUs.

UNCF members Spelman College and Bennett College produce over half of the nation’s African American female doctorates in all science fields.

Excellent Institutions

As ranked by Black Enterprise in 2003, seven of the top ten “ Top Colleges and Universities for African Americans,” including the top six, were HBCUs.

HBCU Xavier University is #1 nationally in placing African-Americans into medical school.

The first Time Magazine/ Princeton Review College of the Year, Florida A&M University , is an HBCU. It is the #1 producer of African Americans with baccalaureate degrees.

Tuskeegee University is the only college ever to be designated a national historic site by the U.S. Congress.

The June 3, 2004 issue of Black Issues in Higher Education shows how HBCUs dominate the upper echelon in terms of numbers of African American graduates per school for the 2002-2003 academic year. The article also reported the following facts

Seven of the top eight producers of African-American baccalaureates overall were HBCUs, including #1 Florida A&M University and #2 Howard University .

Eight of the top eleven producers of African American baccalaureates in agriculture, agriculture operations and related sciences were HBCUs, including #1 Tennessee State University and #3 Tuskegee University .

Sixteen of the top 21 producers of African American baccalaureates in biological and biomedical sciences were HBCUs, including the entire top six (Xavier University of LA (#1), Hampton University (#2), Howard University (#3), Morgan State University (#4), Jackson State University (#5) and Tennessee State University (#6).

Six of the top ten producers of African American baccalaureates in education were HBCUs, including #1 Alabama State University .

Seven of the top eleven producers of African American baccalaureates in engineering were HBCUs, including #1 North Carolina A&T State University .

The top three producers of African American baccalaureates in health professions (#1 Southern University and A&M College , #2 Florida A&M University and #3 Howard University ) were HBCUs.

Eight of the top nine producers of African American baccalaureates in mathematics and statistics were HBCUs: #1 Morehouse College, #2 South Carolina State University #3 Alabama State University, #3 Spelman College, #5Southern University and A&M College, #6 Tennessee State Unversity, #7 Hampton University and #9 Howard University.

The twelve top producers of African American baccalaureates in the physical sciences, including #1 Xavier University of Louisiana , were all HBCUs.

Three of the top five producers of African American baccalaureates in psychology were HBCUs: #1 Florida A&M University , #3 Hampton University and #5 Howard University .

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[Atlantasfinest]

Originally Posted by naomisday

AtlantasFinest,

I really agree with your post....I was reading in a book how years ago...the areas around
Howard, Fisk and Spelman were the areas the Black Professionals lived in and now they
have totally changed...

Those were the neighborhoods that the Professors, Black Doctors, Lawyers Etc..lived in...

There needs to be a serious movement for the Professors, Doctors, Lawyers and Professionals to move back into these neighborhoods near the AUC. The AUC Schools need to be the ones to start this movement since they wield the most influence with the community and nationally. The schools really need to get together to make this happen. I know there was some type of AUC Development Authority but I don't know how active that is nowadays.