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06-06-2008, 10:28 AM
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So when the county or state does a road expansion or major repaving project, if the road doesn't already have sidewalks on at least one side, they don't add them? That was pretty much standard procedure, along with crosswalks, walk/don't walk signals, etc. "up north".
That amazes me.
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06-06-2008, 10:38 AM
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Last year, Cobb County installed sidewalks along the full length of Mabry Road, from Shallowford to 92. They also built foot bridges on both sides of the outflow from Loch Highland. This looked like it must have been a really expensive project. But I now see people walking and jogging along the new sidewalks regularly, which is nice. I guess up here in NE Cobb we're not too scared of people being able to walk to the store. Of course, the nearest bus stop is over 6 miles away, down at Johnson Ferry and Upper Roswell, so the likelihood of a car-less person being attracted to this area by the new sidewalks is probably nil.
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06-06-2008, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by neil0311
So when the county or state does a road expansion or major repaving project, if the road doesn't already have sidewalks on at least one side, they don't add them? That was pretty much standard procedure, along with crosswalks, walk/don't walk signals, etc. "up north".
That amazes me.
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They don't always add right turn lanes, either, even at stop lights on relatively busy four-lane roads where right-of-way isn't an issue (e.g., the eastbound E/W Connector at Cooper Lake Road), which absolutely blows my mind.
Maybe there's a good reason for it other than saving a little bit of $$, but I don't see it...
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06-06-2008, 12:15 PM
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I remember mentioning that we would like a sidewalk neighborhood to our realtor and he just shrugged, as if to say, "Good luck with that."
I just assumed he meant that those neighborhoods were out of our price range. Not that they didn't exist.
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06-07-2008, 10:16 PM
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The town I'm in decided to install sidewalks along a 1.5 mile stretch of road that didn't have them. People showed up in droves over that to protest it as they didn't want, quote, "What that will attract", to the area. They installed it anyway and I kid you not - 100 "for sale" signs went up in that neighborhood the second they broke ground to build the sidewalk. It's one of those "they don't talk about it openly but they do it" things here. 
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Smyrna/Vinings is installing sidewalks on most through streets, so only areas in swim/tennis communities probably won't have sidewalks but the streets outside of them will. Many of the major arteries have 2 bike-lane extensions of the silver comet trail. I think something to note, though, is it is a long way to walk to get to most of these roads for the "undesirables" outside of Smyrna/Vinings.
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I just assumed he meant that those neighborhoods were out of our price range. Not that they didn't exist.
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They exist in any price range, but you'll be limiting your options. For example, in the $300ks, there are sidewalks at The Retreat at Vinings Lake (I think that's the name) near Vet. Memorial off Cooper Lake Rd. In the $400ks, Providence has sidewalks.
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06-10-2008, 12:34 PM
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More culture, less crime, people learning to be tolerant of each other.
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That's not what the crime statistics reveal, in terms of comparing a diverse area to a predominately white area, generally speaking.
Most people have to be tolerant. I suppose the word you're looking for is acceptance, and I'm afraid that the races aren't naturally geared to live around one another. If they were, you wouldn't see so much self segregation. This occurs everywhere, worldwide.
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06-10-2008, 12:38 PM
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Scraper Enthusiast, you need help and if more people think like you they need help too.
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Crime statistics back up what I'm saying.
Statistics on the number of illegals back up what I'm saying.
Economic, Educational, and Cultural statistics and factors back up what I'm saying.
Considering that I've lived in the area my whole life, I know when things started to get worse. There is a high correlation with the time when illegal Mexicans began to infiltrate the area, and the area overall became much more "diverse".
You're so entrenched in Political Correctness, a product of Cultural Marxism, that you deceive yourself, but really, deep-down, you know the truth. You need to be real and get over the idea that you don't want people to think of you as a "racist", because, after all, it was the Communists who created the word to villify white gentiles when they work on behalf of their interests.
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06-10-2008, 12:40 PM
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That's actually one thing that some realtors tell people under the table. They tell them that if they want to avoid (cough) "undesireables" in their area, that they should move to a neighborhood that has no sidewalks, and is at least 1.5 miles away from any type of store or convenience store that people could possibly walk to. This is also one of the answers to the question a lot of newcomers have to this area of, "How come there are so many suburban areas with no sidewalks in Atlanta?". Alot of areas refrain from installing sidewalks to basically force people to have to drive to ammenities locally, to help avoid having people move in who wouldn't own cars and need to walk to these places. Yep. Really.
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And you know this because? Or, is this your own hypothesis?
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06-10-2008, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by atlantagreg30127
The town I'm in decided to install sidewalks along a 1.5 mile stretch of road that didn't have them. People showed up in droves over that to protest it as they didn't want, quote, "What that will attract", to the area. They installed it anyway and I kid you not - 100 "for sale" signs went up in that neighborhood the second they broke ground to build the sidewalk. It's one of those "they don't talk about it openly but they do it" things here. 
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Where is this, Greg? What stretch of road?
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06-10-2008, 12:52 PM
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And you know this because? Or, is this your own hypothesis?
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I know this because I know several realtors, and am not going to argue with you about it.
(Isn't the skyscaper page busy enough these days? Surely someone on there is looking to fight about some building being 11 taller than another and there are no fights to be picked here).
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