Possible Reason for Atlanta's Violent Suburbs? (Decatur: credit, homes, neighborhood)

[Scraper Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by rcsteiner

FWIW, you date yourself terribly by using such an obsolete term. Karl Marx hasn't been a major influence on the world .. or a very popular or idolized figure in the US ... for decades.

Steiner, look into Cultural Marxism and how it has had a profound influence on western society, and continues to have a profound effect on western society.

Marx's ideas have not only molded many policies, via the origination of his original theories, but they have led to massive changes in the societies in which they have taken hold. Immigration changes, welfare, etc. is all related to these origins.

You might also want to look into Antonio Gramsci's impact on cultural, social, and even economic sectors of society.

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by bayarea-girl

Rcsteiner, I will agree to disagree with you. Scraper does not present concrete information as others have written in about.

Actually, I was thinking of his postings in another current thread. You're right that his comments in this one are largely unsubstantiated.

If you are believing his crap you should seek further education.

Again with the put downs? This is what I'm talking about.

I believe that I clearly prefaced my previous remarks with the phrase, "While I don't usually agree with Scraper's opinions...", so a misplaced ad Hominem isn't particularly relevant.

Oh well. It's not like I'm a moderator.

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by Scraper Enthusiast

Steiner, look into Cultural Marxism and how it has had a profound influence on western society, and continues to have a profound effect on western society.

I was referring to your actual use of the term in various places to describe your detractors, not the impact of some of its core philosophies.

The term is an anachronism.

[bugaboo72]

Originally Posted by BGS99

You need help. seek further education

O.K. I'll seek it? Again what's with those comments and what's with the whole winking thing? If I was your neighbor and someone broke into your home I would be a nosy neighbor and stand up for you and your property.
Neighbors in neighborhoods should stick up for one another.

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by bugaboo72

Can't we all just agree that the majority of violent crime in Atlanta are committed by blacks? It's not being racist, but a realist. My "moderate" way of thinking has concluded to me that it's acually not about race, but about culture. Not a culture of violence, but the culture of being poor. It just so happens, in Atlanta, that the culture is made up primarily by blacks. I'm a moderate and I still wonder why this is considered racist?

It shouldn't be except by folks who are in serious denial about some of the issues which are currently confronting our society.

The fact is, single-parent families are often (not always, but often) suboptimal environments in which to raise children, and there are often real consequences to having large numbers of teenagers meandering around with no parental supervision and nothing to keep them occupied.

They will find something. Often, that something is a shortcut around little things like laws or the rights of others to get something which feels good or is hard to easily get any other way.

[bayarea-girl]

Rcsteiner, ok I apologize miss read your comment (sometimes I tend to read too quickly while doing other work at the same time). But Scraper has put down a lot of people, his statements are just ignorant. I have not been then one to make un-supportive claims and straight up insults to people of different races.

[atlantamoi]

Originally Posted by bugaboo72

I think Scraper is trying to say that for the most part the crime being committed in the 'burbs are by blacks, BUT NOT because of the fact that they are black, but by the culture. Can't we agree that that is a fair assessment about this subject?

I completely agree with your statement, but Scraper went beyond that.

[vsmoove]

Originally Posted by JB432

My thinking was once along the lines as yours. But I have since discovered that correlation is not cause. WW2 seems to have answered these questions anyway, and did so quite clearly.

I guess I should have known that this thread would go to crap but only because you guys respond to that clown. The message of the article was that it was preferential to have consolidated housing projects because it kept crime to a lower level in a smaller space... now, the crime is impacting many different neighborhoods. The policy question then becomes what to do with housing projects... instead of tearing them down and having the residents move to the burbs, perhaps they should re-think the concept, layout and security initiatives but still place them within the city?

[Scott Summers]

It feels like deja vu on here.

[RainyRainyDay]

Originally Posted by vsmoove

I guess I should have known that this thread would go to crap but only because you guys respond to that clown. The message of the article was that it was preferential to have consolidated housing projects because it kept crime to a lower level in a smaller space... now, the crime is impacting many different neighborhoods. The policy question then becomes what to do with housing projects... instead of tearing them down and having the residents move to the burbs, perhaps they should re-think the concept, layout and security initiatives but still place them within the city?

vsmoove, I appreciated your posting the original article. It was saddening but informative and I shared it with some others who appreciated it. I'm not sure I agree with you on the central message, but it's not surprising that people might draw different conclusions on this very complex and difficult topic.