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06-12-2008, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BravoFan
It feels like deja vu on here.
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I second that.
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06-12-2008, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bayarea-girl
LovinDecatur, it would be great if men could experience the joys of being a woman. But the man was still a woman and are your serious? Actually, I don't think men can handle the whole thing anyways. I'm ok with gay people but come on it's just too confusing: a woman changes into a man (but not really), then gets pregnant = a confused child.
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I dunno - the kid might be fine.
Ok, so it's by FAR not what we in America would call a "traditional" family. But I actually watched that show. The "dad" is in the middle of operations or whatever. Once the kid is born, he/she is finishing the job, and will have a supposedly working taliwacker and all those parts. They said that "dad" will take the roll of a traditional dad, and mom will be the mom, and that at some point down the road the details will be explained to the kid when they're old enough.
Now, do I understand this? No. Do most folks understand it? No. Is it kinda freaky to think about? Oh yes. They interviewed their neighbors, and they were cool with it, though I'm sure other neighbors aren't. But I do know this - I'll give them credit for putting up with lots of crap in order to do what they want to do, and at least according to what they showed, they are going to dedicate themselves to that kid and give the kid a very emotionally loving home. Now, I can personally think of oh, I don't know.. a few HUNDRED "traditional" homes I've seen here in Atlanta over the years where the kids are completely screwed up because they have disfunctional moms and "real" dads... or, no dads at home at all.
So, I can say that I'm glad I'm not living next door to them simply because I wouldn't want to deal with the media circus around them. But I do think they'll give their kid a better home than a certain percentage of what we think of as today's traditional families - at least around here. The kid is certainly gonna have a rough time when his/her classmates find out the home situation one day, but hey, how many kids go to school now who are beat by their drunk fathers? Abused by mom? Abused by mom's boyfriend? Go home alone to an empty house because single mom is raising them without a dad at all? At least this kid will have two parents who aren't abusive and aren't crack heads or cons.
I wouldn't put this under ghetto suburbs anyway - I mean having a "transgendered" neighbor would be freaky, sure, but it's not going to cause homes to drop 25% in value up and down the street most likely. Gangs will - transgendered not so much. Now, if there was a transgendered gang on the street - hmmmm. 
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06-12-2008, 11:14 PM
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Atlantagreg, the whole show irritated me. The show was very deceptive from the start. A man was not pregers but a woman was. She probably couldn't turn into a man because she couldn't pass the psych test. I really don't care if (maybe a little bit) about parents of the same sex caring for a child that needs a home. But getting pregnant just for the money and or write a book it ticked me off. They just wanted to be the first ones to do it, cause a stir, and publicize the entire thing, sell books, and make money. I'd live next to a bunch of gay people any day because my property value will increase but wouldn't live next to those folks on Oprah. If a woman wants to be a man, well men don't have kids. I'm liberal to a point but woman to man to not a man to having a kid, its gone too far. But it is not my life.
In the Bay Area TG neighborhoods tend to be lower income as most of the TG'S tend to be or have been prostitutes. I'm sure in the ATL the TG'S aren't living in the same type of environment as the Bay Area. Not saying it is right but that is my observation.
At the end of the day I'm all for creating and providing loving environments for our children to thrive. But life is hard enough with extra unnecessary situations added to the pot.
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06-13-2008, 07:49 AM
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I don't think that you can infer things about the TG community based on this couple.
I'll reiterate my problem with it...it's a media circus, and it feels like the entire thing was engineered by the couple themselves. Their motivations are suspect IMO.
Boy, are we OT...
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06-13-2008, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by vsmoove
I guess I should have known that this thread would go to crap but only because you guys respond to that clown. The message of the article was that it was preferential to have consolidated housing projects because it kept crime to a lower level in a smaller space... now, the crime is impacting many different neighborhoods. The policy question then becomes what to do with housing projects... instead of tearing them down and having the residents move to the burbs, perhaps they should re-think the concept, layout and security initiatives but still place them within the city?
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I know this is a long thread so you may have missed my original post but...No one is making them move to the burbs. The people uprooted from public housing would rather live in the same neighborhood as the housing project they are being displaced from. They only move to the burbs when they are unable to find alternative housing in the same area.
From what I understand the projects are owned by the Atlanta Housing Authority, which is not controlled by the City of Atlanta. The developments being rebuilt do have different concepts. They will be mixed use, because they believe having a high concentration of poor people living in a mass complex, makes is more difficult to escape the cycle of poverty. Additionally, the requirements for living in the mixed use communities are more stringent.
Finally, the projects have to be torn down, have you seen them? I believe one of the projects near me had asbestos.
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06-13-2008, 10:22 AM
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Working, working...and did I mention, working ??
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Decision made....
This thread has veered so much "off topic" from the original stated question AND created way to much anger and controversy, that I opted to close this thread.
Last edited by MB2; 06-14-2008 at 08:10 AM..
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