Name Recognition:Atlanta or Houston (White: theatre, live, move to)

[grindin]

Originally Posted by Miami305Kid

1) Chopped and Screwed is a way of remixing music. It's when you slow down the tempo, and you do stuff like skipping beats, record scratching, and adding other affects, the result a "chopped" verison of the orignal song. This style of music origniated in Houston, Texas by DJ screw. It's kinda obscure, if you're into rap you're more likely to know what it is, and also many people may hear it but might not recogize the style or know what it's called

2) True, however I was referring to how Houston's greater diversity shows how it has a greater influence internationally than Austin.

Well, chopped-and-screwed is still more of a regional thing, although it has more presence than say, DC's Go-Go music. Chopped-and-screwed is well known throughout Texas and the western parts of the Gulf South. You can barely hear Go-Go outside of DC/MD/VA/

[JPD]

Originally Posted by Kofi713

Wow. Chopped and screwed is pretty big. It blew up nationwide in 2005. Many mainstream artists from places across the country had Houston DJs chop and screw their CDs. Many released double disks, with one being normal, and the other being screwed.

And you HONESTLY think Austin is more influential than Houston? Shows how much (well little) you know.

So name some examples. Why do I keep having to ask you to do that?

I don't know why you would insut me. That's pretty lame of you.


SXSW, held in Austin, is the most influential and longest running music conference/festival in the country.

Austin City Limits is the longest running and most influential televised music program in the country.

Those types of things, and not corporate offices, are the things that give a place name recognition.

Who cares where Dell is headquartered? Unless you work there, it really doesn't matter where their office is.

[Kofi713]

Originally Posted by grindin

I'm not talking about in terms of population, but in terms of prominence. Yes, Houston surpassed Dallas to be the states largest city in the 1930's, but Dallas 'grew-up' so to speak a bit earlier than Houston did. Dallas had the repuation as the 'moneyed' (Federal Reserve is there) white-collar oil town with large transportation infrastructure while Houston had the repuation as the hard working blue collar oil town.

Hardly. While Dallas was larger than Houston, that is when the federal reserve bank moved there. Hell, the fight was between Dallas and New Orleans. Houston was just a backwater oil town then.

Once the 80s boom rolled around, Houston took many of the white-collar oil jobs from Dallas, as they moved closer to their workers. The only one who didn't move was Exxon. Still though, the majority of Exxon's employees are in Houston, and not Irving. If you go to the east side of Houston's metro, it is blue-collar workers that work in the refineries, plants, etc. But, on the other end of I-10, it is the white-collar oil folks, with big money. You should see all of the construction in the Energy Corridor. Type Energy Corridor into your Google search bar and read up on it.

Dallas does not have an area like this with energy. Instead, Dallas is more telecommunications now.

Originally Posted by JPD

So name some examples. Why do I keep having to ask you to do that?

I don't know why you would insut me. That's pretty lame of you.


SXSW, held in Austin, is the most influential and longest running music conference/festival in the country.

Austin City Limits is the longest running and most influential televised music program in the country.

Those types of things, and not corporate offices, are the things that give a place name recognition.

Who cares where Dell is headquartered? Unless you work there, it really doesn't matter where their office is.

Why don't you make a poll and ask people which one is more influential. You are looking really uninformed, as you are the first person I have ever seen that thinks Austin is more influential than Houston. Austin is the fourth largest metro in Texas. It and San Antonio LIVE in Houston and Dallas' shadow.

Just because those two (only TWO) festivals and events is held in Austin, doesn't mean that place is more influential than Houston. Austin has no influence on the two Texas giants. I "insulted" you, because you made some strange claims that Austin is more influential than Houston. It isn't. What are the sports teams in Austin? When has it hosted any major sporting event? Please tell me, because I live in this state and can't find out. Has Austin been considered for an Olympics? Is it going to host the Latin Grammy Awards? Is it submitting a bit for the World Expo? Answer to all is no.

[grindin]

Originally Posted by Kofi713

Hardly. While Dallas was larger than Houston, that is when the federal reserve bank moved there. Hell, the fight was between Dallas and New Orleans. Houston was just a backwater oil town then.

Once the 80s boom rolled around, Houston took many of the white-collar oil jobs from Dallas, as they moved closer to their workers. The only one who didn't move was Exxon. Still though, the majority of Exxon's employees are in Houston, and not Irving. If you go to the east side of Houston's metro, it is blue-collar workers that work in the refineries, plants, etc. But, on the other end of I-10, it is the white-collar oil folks, with big money. You should see all of the construction in the Energy Corridor. Type Energy Corridor into your Google search bar and read up on it.

Dallas does not have an area like this with energy. Instead, Dallas is more telecommunications now.

I'm talking about reputation from the past, not today. Notice I said "Dallas had...", not "Dallas has..."

I've been to Houston enough to know that the East side is mostly industrial while the west side is mostly white-collar, and I've heard of the Energy Corridor. Heck, I've been stuck in traffic on I-10 in the Energy Corridor. When the 80's boom and subsequent bust occurred, the oil companies pretty much consolidated in Houston, leaving Dallas and New Orleans for the most part. Dallas made up for it in spades with the Telecommunications industry and the sheer number of corporations that were established or have relocated to the area. New Orleans has had to rely mainly on tourism dollars.

But this was about Atlanta vs. Houston, right?

[Kofi713]

Originally Posted by grindin

I'm talking about reputation from the past, not today. Notice I said "Dallas had...", not "Dallas has..."

I've been to Houston enough to know that the East side is mostly industrial while the west side is mostly white-collar, and I've heard of the Energy Corridor. Heck, I've been stuck in traffic on I-10 in the Energy Corridor. When the 80's boom and subsequent bust occurred, the oil companies pretty much consolidated in Houston, leaving Dallas and New Orleans for the most part. Dallas made up for it in spades with the Telecommunications industry and the sheer number of corporations that were established or have relocated to the area. New Orleans has had to rely mainly on tourism dollars.

And with the bust, Houston has gained as well, especially in the medical and IT fields. Oil/energy is only 45% of Houston's economy now, and is dropping every year. Greater Houston Partnetship expects it to be around 30-35% by 2012.

But this was about Atlanta vs. Houston, right?

No.

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by grindin

I'm not talking about in terms of population, but in terms of prominence. Yes, Houston surpassed Dallas to be the states largest city in the 1930's, but Dallas 'grew-up' so to speak a bit earlier than Houston did. Dallas had the repuation as the 'moneyed' (Federal Reserve is there) white-collar oil town with large transportation infrastructure while Houston had the repuation as the hard working blue collar oil town.

Hey, it's Texas. Who cares?

[grindin]

Originally Posted by Kofi713

No.

If I recall the title of THIS thread is: What city a has both a greater national and international name recognition:Atlanta or Houston?

So, um, yes...

[JPD]

Originally Posted by Kofi713

Why don't you make a poll and ask people which one is more influential. You are looking really uninformed, as you are the first person I have ever seen that thinks Austin is more influential than Houston. Austin is the fourth largest metro in Texas. It and San Antonio LIVE in Houston and Dallas' shadow.

Just because those two (only TWO) festivals and events is held in Austin, doesn't mean that place is more influential than Houston. Austin has no influence on the two Texas giants.

Show me where I said Austin is more influential than Houston. If you were paying attention, you would know that I ASKED YOU if you really thought Houston was more influential than Houston, and to back it up with facts. And I did that because, from my perspective as a non-Texan,
Austin has had much more of an influence on my life than Houston. I was not saying you are wrong, I was asking because the thought of Houston being more influential than Austin is very surprising.

Turns out, I've learned quite a bit about Houston. Unfortunately, what I have learned is poisoned by your highly condescending style of communication.

[JPD]

Originally Posted by Kofi713

No.

And you have the nerve to roll eyes at me?

[Kofi713]

Originally Posted by grindin

If I recall the title of THIS thread is: What city a has both a greater national and international name recognition:Atlanta or Houston?

So, um, yes...

Originally Posted by JPD

And you have the nerve to roll eyes at me?

Wow kids, take a joke.

It's right there in the thread title, so you think I can't read? Maybe a smiley would have helped.