Snellville Middle School- SCARED 2 DEATH HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Atlanta, Dacula: 2011, price, assault)

[Scraper Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by wilbret

Just wanted to add how it makes me laugh and sickens me at the same time when I hear people go on diatribes about how 'diversity' is better and that it helps kids prepare for the real world. BS.

What helps kids is to be in a school where they are comfortable and is a place of actual learning. If the teachers are more worried about being PC and focused on discipline, there is little time to teach. Too often, diversity is placed above actual education. I wouldn't dream of putting my kid in a school where he'd be one of a just a few of his color for the sake of making me feel better about myself. (in reality, that's what you are doing)

Don't let the PC police make you feel bad about yourself for worrying. You are normal.

*I am from a county where the school system is 97% AA. My wife taught there. We are happy to no longer be in that county. Diversity wasn't that great.

Check out the school for yourself, the rumors are either true or unfounded, and you won't know for sure until you visit. Don't just go by test scores, either. Some schools teach solely for the test and omit things like social studies and science completely to focus on reading and math.

Wilbret, I appreciate your thoughtful, intelligent post. It isn't ignorant, but it is based on experience. Thank you. I too have experience, and I know firsthand that the Diversity promoters are rather ignorant about what they preach.

[neil0311]

Originally Posted by BlueLuce

Diversity is essential to a child's development. Any person, regardless of race, who grows up in a culture that doesn't appreciate differences and embrace them eventually end up learning these lessons in their later years, making it more difficult to accept.

I think most parents want their children to grow up to respect other cultures and value individuals for who they are, and not what skin color they have or what religion they practice. If this happens as a result of interactions at school, then great, but it's still a parent's responsibility to teach those values by example.

In my mind, the more important thing is the quality of the education being obtained at the school, and not the racial makeup. It has been the case in some schools that a high population of low income minorities has influenced the quality of education, but that is more a function of income than of race.

The key question for all of you to answer honestly...

If your child needed brain surgery to save his/her life, would you want the doctor who went to the best medical school or the one who went to the most diverse medical school performing the surgery? Diversity is nice, but the quality of education has to be the first concern.

[Scraper Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by BlueLuce

Diversity is essential to a child's development.

It is? So people in Finland or Japan needed diversity to develop? Are you saying that people in Japan are emotionally, socially, and physically that of an adolescent? That sounds rather arrogant, in my opinion.

Any person, regardless of race, who grows up in a culture that doesn't appreciate differences and embrace them eventually end up learning these lessons in their later years, making it more difficult to accept.

They end up learning what lessons? You're a little vague here. "Diversity" is not the norm. Diversity leads to instability which generally results in geographic distancing. What is the number one divider of different nations? Racial and Ethnic distinctions. What you're promoting is what will eventually result in a very weak, Brazil-like United States of America, or the eventual break-up of this nation along racial-ethnic states/republics. It'll take a while, but that's where we're headed.

Children are only sensitive to differences that their parents and others make an issue about.

This is totally incorrect, and studies have been done that show that very young children notice racial differences and exhibit selectivity for their own without any promotion by a parent. How do you figure that black children adopted by white parents and raised by them eventually end up embracing fellow blacks over those who are white?

I was not suggesting you throw your kid into an uncomfortable situation. But hearing people say that a predominately "AA" school would cause an issue reinforce the reasons why there is an issue for a child to be the minority in a school with a majority of other races.

Predominately black schools are much more violent, on average. Statistics at the Georgia Department of Education back this up. If you've ever attended a predominately black school, as well as a predominately white school, you know that there is a difference in overall order of the school. This is a generalized fact.

I was brought up to adapt to my situation so that I feel comfortable in any racial situation. Whether I was surrounded by AAs, caucasians, hispanics, etc. I knew how to conduct myself appropriately because I had home training and self worth.

Here's the difference. Predominately white schools are generally orderly, while the same is not the case for predominately black schools. I speak from experience. Secondly, your people are already minorities, so you've known it since you were a small child. On the other hand, whites built the USA, and this nation was designed to be a western white nation. We are now watching its destruction courtesy of illegal immigration and legal immigration that does not favor Europeans. I find this forced change as an attack against a white nation. It is also occurring in much of Europe.

If you are concerned about the racial makeup of your child's school, put him/her in a school where they are in the majority. And when he/she talks about someone of another race in a negative light, you can wonder where he/she learned that behavior. Definately not from you....

You know, some people don't have a choice. They move into a predominately white area, some that may have school populations that are 85% white. By the time they have children and they become school-aged, the school may be only 30% white. This is a fact of the destruction of white metro Atlanta and white America, in general. Unable to move as a result of financial obligations, they are forced to send their children to these schools.

[Scraper Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by neil0311

In my mind, the more important thing is the quality of the education being obtained at the school, and not the racial makeup. It has been the case in some schools that a high population of low income minorities has influenced the quality of education, but that is more a function of income than of race.

Neil, socioeconomic status probably play a small role, but cultural and racial differences play a role as well.

[Scraper Enthusiast]

Snellville Middle School


Snellville Middle School, Snellville Georgia / GA school information


So this is not exhibitive of the destruction of a white school, white community, and white America?

[neil0311]

Originally Posted by Scraper Enthusiast

Neil, socioeconomic status probably play a small role, but cultural and racial differences play a role as well.

Agreed, but I think you'd find more in common between a white child and a black child, each from a middle or upper middle class family, then you will between either of those children and a child from a low income family. Often (not always), low income parents have little education themselves, may work multiple jobs and can't be as involved, and the child may be exposed to surroundings that aren't helpful.

[rxlynn]

Originally Posted by Scraper Enthusiast

You know, some people don't have a choice. They move into a predominately white area, some that may have school populations that are 85% white. By the time they have children and they become school-aged, the school may be only 30% white. This is a fact of the destruction of white metro Atlanta and white America, in general. Unable to move as a result of financial obligations, they are forced to send their children to these schools.

Could not agree more - this is exactly what happened to the district I am in (not Snellville cluster). We bought a house in 1997 - at that point the elementary school was 70% white, 7% black, 17% Asian, and 5% Hispanic. We had children in 1999 and 2002 - by last year the elementary school composition was 28% white, 16% black, 19% Asian, and 32% Hispanic. I was very naive when we bought this house, and will not make the same mistakes again. Probably the biggest one is simply not assessing how many apartments and multi-family units there were in the school district, because that is where the majority of the changeover has been. And, I can't fault those parents at all - if I were in their position I would do the exact same thing - find an apartment or condo in the best school district I could.

[OhioNative]

It will be interesting to see what the economic downturn will do to the demographics in Gwinnett, especially in those areas without apartments or lower end rentals. In my neighborhood in Suwanee, many of the foreclosures have been minorities, resulting in many African Americans moving out of our neighborhood (this is not a comment as to whether or not this is a good or bad thing, just an observation). Also, I wonder if the immigration crackdown and the economy will change the Hispanic population. The growth overall in Gwinnett has slowed considerably.

[That_guy]

For those of you with absolutely ZERO first hand experience with these schools, let me straighten some things out..

I went to both Snellville Middle and South Gwinnett. I graduated from South Gwinnett in 1998. When I went there, both schools were predominantly white, and had no major problems. The worst we had to worry about was a school "fight" happening. Now, both schools are filled with minorities, mainly blacks and require excessive amounts of security. I believe now South Gwinnett has 4 full time security guards on duty, with metal detectors everywhere. When I went there, there was only 1 guard and he was part time. When you drive by there, there isn't a white kid in site.

The only thing that has changed in these schools is the race of the kids going there.

Some of you people need to wake up and realize that it's not racism. It's statistics and statistics dont lie.

Gwinnett county as a hole is gone to the toilet, and it's not because all the white people just decided to get together one day and ruin it. All the whites are LEAVING. You do the math.

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by wilbret

*I am from a county where the school system is 97% AA. My wife taught there. We are happy to no longer be in that county. Diversity wasn't that great.

Any population where 97% of the people are the same is not diverse.