Snellville Middle School- SCARED 2 DEATH HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Atlanta, Lawrenceville: safe neighborhoods, universities, to live in)

[RoslynHolcomb]

I agree Dignan. I have fifteen years experience working with adolescents of all races, and what you've said is very true, though I'd probably raise the age to 15, especially with girls. Further, my SIL, who is the principal of an exclusive private school that is virtually all white would more or less say the same thing. This notion of assigning behavior based on one's melanin content is specious at best and if nothing else demonstrates a lack of experience with the population in question.

[Scraper Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by RoslynHolcomb

I agree Dignan. I have fifteen years experience working with adolescents of all races, and what you've said is very true, though I'd probably raise the age to 15, especially with girls. Further, my SIL, who is the principal of an exclusive private school that is virtually all white would more or less say the same thing. This notion of assigning behavior based on one's melanin content is specious at best and if nothing else demonstrates a lack of experience with the population in question.

I'll argue that I have plenty of experience on which to talk on the subject.

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by Scraper Enthusiast

I'll argue that I have plenty of experience on which to talk on the subject.

Experience can be highly subjective. And sometimes context-sensitive, also.

That's why I find that I get myself into so many technical arguments with Microsoft Windows lovers and folks who think UNIX servers are the best thing since sliced bread (I'm a long-time OS/2, Mac, and Linux guy who has played on both mainframes and UNIX boxes in the airline industry for 20 years, and who thinks Windows and UNIX people need to get out more and see what real computing is all about). I have some serious disagreements with such folks about things like "usable desktops" and "stable systems".

An Appeal to Authority isn't a valid argument by itself. Ya gotta back it up, and from what I've seen if your opinions here on C-D, you seemingly have an axe to grind when it comes to race.

Your reasons might be valid in your context, I really don't know, but it clouds your reputation here (at least in my mind).

[Scraper Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by rcsteiner

Experience can be highly subjective. And sometimes context-sensitive, also.

That's why I find that I get myself into so many technical arguments with Microsoft Windows lovers and folks who think UNIX servers are the best thing since sliced bread (I'm a long-time OS/2, Mac, and Linux guy who has played on both mainframes and UNIX boxes in the airline industry for 20 years, and who thinks Windows and UNIX people need to get out more and see what real computing is all about). I have some serious disagreements with such folks about things like "usable desktops" and "stable systems".

An Appeal to Authority isn't a valid argument by itself. Ya gotta back it up, and from what I've seen if your opinions here on C-D, you seemingly have an axe to grind when it comes to race.

Your reasons might be valid in your context, I really don't know, but it clouds your reputation here (at least in my mind).

It's not uncommon for the ignorant to mock the informed. Why should I be surprised?

[RainyRainyDay]

Originally Posted by Dignan

I disagree. White children 11-14 can be little animals even in a virtually all-white environment. I've seen it more than once. I've seen it with poor white kids, and I've seen it with upper middle class white kids. I've seen it in the north, and I've seen it in the south. That age group is just problematic. I can MAYBE imagine kids that age being orderly and respectful at a very strict religious school, but I can't imagine it under any other circumstance.

Originally Posted by RoslynHolcomb

I agree Dignan. I have fifteen years experience working with adolescents of all races, and what you've said is very true, though I'd probably raise the age to 15, especially with girls. Further, my SIL, who is the principal of an exclusive private school that is virtually all white would more or less say the same thing. This notion of assigning behavior based on one's melanin content is specious at best and if nothing else demonstrates a lack of experience with the population in question.

Friends, let's not go overboard on knocking the poor early-adolescent population. I completely agree that melanin content is not a predictor of intelligence or behavior (and I'm offended, as usual, by that tiresome poster who keeps asserting this rubbish). I also agree that the 11-14 age group is challenging, but c'mon. I have a 14 year old daughter who is reasonably orderly and respectful. Furthermore, life at the middle school she attended, Mabry Middle School in NE Cobb, did not sound chaotic. It's hard being an early adolescent, but they're not all space aliens, and they do grow up, eh?

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by Scraper Enthusiast

It's not uncommon for the ignorant to mock the informed. Why should I be surprised?

Mock? No. I'm simply wondering why a self-described expert like you doesn't make a better attempt to actively demonstrate his claimed experience in this forum instead of simply talking about things in generalities and spewing numbers.

The content of your messages defines you here.

Show me. What experience do you have, what has it taught you, and why? Anyone can search the internet, but you given me the impression that your assertions are based on more than mere statistics. What is that basis?

[That_guy]

I do not understand why people debate over this kind of stuff. I can simplify it for you...

THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGES IN THESE AREAS THAT GO TO CRAP, ARE THE RACES THAT RESIDE THERE. PERIOD!!!!!

When is the last time you saw a nice, quiet, crime free BLACK community get ruined and run down because whites started moving in. Lets see........Never.

Stone Mountain, Lilburn, Lithonia, Snellville, Lawrenceville. Just to name a few that were once nice quiet neighborhoods with very little crime, now ruined and crime ridden because of minorities. I've lived here for the last 15 years, and seen this happen before my very eyes. It's sad.

It's not racist people. Just cold, hard, painful facts.

[Scraper Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by rcsteiner

Mock? No. I'm simply wondering why a self-described expert like you doesn't make a better attempt to actively demonstrate his claimed experience in this forum instead of simply talking about things in generalities and spewing numbers.

The content of your messages defines you here.

Show me. What experience do you have, what has it taught you, and why? Anyone can search the internet, but you given me the impression that your assertions are based on more than mere statistics. What is that basis?

No. I have plenty of experience, but as we all know, speaking against such political correctness can have unintended results if we get too specific. It's 1984.

[RoslynHolcomb]

It's hard being an early adolescent, but they're not all space aliens, and they do grow up, eh?

I agree, but you have to admit it can be a very challenging age and race has nothing to do with it.

Bottom line for the OP, if you don't want your kid in the school move or take measures to get out.

[ladylove5055]

For 1.The school has a REp to be Ruff.<they have even enforced a dress code ..no baggy pants no extremely lg shirts....If it was more 50/50 of racial..No prob here...But when you walk in for registration and your the only white family out of everyone you see.lol My children are not racist...by no means...But I have checked it out...WE are on our way more north...Even the staff we have spoke too around here have mentioned it's getting ruff around the area and gettin worse.........So to let ya know..I only asked of people who knew the school ..not someone who would step in and didn't know.........