Demographic Changes within Cobb & Gwinnett Schools (Alpharetta, Duluth: renting, homes)

[Scraper Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by cmtiger

Y'all scare me. I'm just glad I live in Decatur where folks can stand to actually send their kid to school with a kid of another race. Maybe that's why Decatur schools are so stable. There's no white flight b/c folks there aren't scared of people who don't look like them. It must suck to have to move every couple of years b/c you see a Black person. Geez.

I find this thread depressing.

Would you send your child to a school in "South Decatur". These are Dekalb County schools. Would you do it? Be honest.

[Merin]

I also said I would never reply to another one of scrapers posts, so this is a reply to everyone else.

White women are the largest benefactors of Affirmative Action. City and County jobs do not pay much so I don't see how this automatically makes you middle class. They are also not as stable as most people thin, just ask City of Atlanta employees. Additionally, speaking as someone who's close family and friends have worked HR in the government,and as a former Federal employee myself I disagree that Federal Government jobs are Affirmative Action jobs. I have seen this first hand. The gap between blacks and white has decreased over the past 30 years. Finally, there are many "studies" that contradict the "studies" he refers to saying that genetically blacks are less intelligent. We all know statistics can be screwed and calling this stuff natural is a fallacy at best.

[davesm]

I'm another one that said I would never respond to one of scraper's post (straightalker is about to join list). I always find this type of reasoning intellectually slanted and shallow at best. Yes, statistics are good, they give you a picture, but don't tell the story behind the picture.

For instance, one could ask, "How do African Immigrants compare in scoring to African Americans?" For those that don't know, an African in American and an African American have 2 very different cultures, family histories, even ethnic make-up (85% of AA have Native American DNA and recent genetic tests suggest 18% of African American's collective DNA is of European orgin). The same differences exist between European immigrants in America and European-Americans. I'd be surprised if such a study even exist.

Also, we inherit more then just money and property from our family. More importantly we inherit values, habits, and a transfer of knowledge (i.e. financial, social, etc). For instance, a European-American and an African-American born in 1958 (only 50 y/o now) each had a very different upbringing. They each passed on to their children what they knew and what they were taught by experience, education, and their parents. Certainly, it would be agreed that in general they did not have the same exposure, experience, and education to pass on to the next generation. Can we be intellectually honest for a moment and acknowledge that all of these factors have a lot to do with why things are the way things are? Not because of some genetic superiority/inferiority non-sense.

This time I mean it... No more responding to Scraper posts or any of these B/W posts so frequent on this forum. To continue would be a complete waste of time.

[GF72]

wow who is this scraper guy? i must have missed some stuff...

"the sad tragedy is that white america is being destroyed"

good. have you even been to any other country? america needs some style and culture. any random street corner in Bangladesh has more personality that one of our strip malls :P

now i'll join those ignoring him

[Scraper Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by Merin

I also said I would never reply to another one of scrapers posts, so this is a reply to everyone else.

White women are the largest benefactors of Affirmative Action. City and County jobs do not pay much so I don't see how this automatically makes you middle class. They are also not as stable as most people thin, just ask City of Atlanta employees. Additionally, speaking as someone who's close family and friends have worked HR in the government,and as a former Federal employee myself I disagree that Federal Government jobs are Affirmative Action jobs. I have seen this first hand. The gap between blacks and white has decreased over the past 30 years. Finally, there are many "studies" that contradict the "studies" he refers to saying that genetically blacks are less intelligent. We all know statistics can be screwed and calling this stuff natural is a fallacy at best.

So studies which relate to IQ differences are wrong, in your opinion?

These same studies have been repeated by a multitude of individuals, and the same results occur time and time again, regardless of who is conducting them.

As someone stated, East Asians have the highest IQs, followed closely by whites, then a significant gap where Mestizo "Hispanics" figure, closely followed by blacks.

Are you saying that everyone is wrong?

[Scraper Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by davesm

I'm another one that said I would never respond to one of scraper's post (straightalker is about to join list). I always find this type of reasoning intellectually slanted and shallow at best. Yes, statistics are good, they give you a picture, but don't tell the story behind the picture.

For instance, one could ask, "How do African Immigrants compare in scoring to African Americans?" For those that don't know, an African in American and an African American have 2 very different cultures, family histories, even ethnic make-up (85% of AA have Native American DNA and recent genetic tests suggest 18% of African American's collective DNA is of European orgin). The same differences exist between European immigrants in America and European-Americans. I'd be surprised if such a study even exist.

Also, we inherit more then just money and property from our family. More importantly we inherit values, habits, and a transfer of knowledge (i.e. financial, social, etc). For instance, a European-American and an African-American born in 1958 (only 50 y/o now) each had a very different upbringing. They each passed on to their children what they knew and what they were taught by experience, education, and their parents. Certainly, it would be agreed that in general they did not have the same exposure, experience, and education to pass on to the next generation. Can we be intellectually honest for a moment and acknowledge that all of these factors have a lot to do with why things are the way things are? Not because of some genetic superiority/inferiority non-sense.

This time I mean it... No more responding to Scraper posts or any of these B/W posts so frequent on this forum. To continue would be a complete waste of time.

Of course there is a difference between black Americans (African-Americans to the PC crowd) and black Africans. Most black Americans have European (white) blood. Most black Africans have very little European blood, if any at all. If you look at IQ scores, black Americans on average have an 85 IQ, while black Africans have a 60-70 IQ. White Americans/Europeans have a 100 IQ on average. Hence, the black American, which has significant white blood, falls in between whites and pure blacks. All of this has been documented.

As far as the different individuals having different cultures, which you think accounts for differences in IQ, why is it that East Asians come to the US with little knowledge of English, only to do well in school, while a substantial percentage of native-born blacks always struggle in school?

[Scraper Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by GF72

wow who is this scraper guy? i must have missed some stuff...

"the sad tragedy is that white america is being destroyed"

good. have you even been to any other country? america needs some style and culture. any random street corner in Bangladesh has more personality that one of our strip malls :P

now i'll join those ignoring him

So you celebrate the destruction of white America? Would you prefer to live amongst the poverty and squalor of Bangladesh? Your viewpoint is very anti-white, and it reeks with hatred, in my opinion.

You say "America needs some style and culture", but are you aware that we have plenty of style and culture. How about taking pride in your own culture, or the culture of various European countries, that from which much of the U.S. derived?

Have you fed yourself a large helping of white guilt?

[GF72]

Originally Posted by Scraper Enthusiast

So you celebrate the destruction of white America? Would you prefer to live amongst the poverty and squalor of Bangladesh? Your viewpoint is very anti-white, and it reeks with hatred, in my opinion.

You say "America needs some style and culture", but are you aware that we have plenty of style and culture. How about taking pride in your own culture, or the culture of various European countries, that from which much of the U.S. derived?

Have you fed yourself a large helping of white guilt?

I like all culture. I've been all over America, Europe, and Asia. And how do you know I'm not white?

Anyway, I just said that to annoy you. I could care less what's going on. You, however, do care. You're the one who reeks with hatred... Black people in America do poorly because, on a large scale, they are disadvantaged, not because they are black...

Asians, on a large scale, are not disadvantaged. Most Asians that make it to the US are the high achievers of their countries, the ones that have the ambition and success to leave for America. And, on a large scale, their children are going to follow in their footsteps.

Blacks didn't come to America in that way.

[Scraper Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by GF72

I like all culture. I've been all over America, Europe, and Asia. And how do you know I'm not white?

NO true white person would wish for his people to become dispossessed.

Anyway, I just said that to annoy you. I could care less what's going on. You, however, do care. You're the one who reeks with hatred... Black people in America do poorly because, on a large scale, they are disadvantaged, not because they are black...

Are you telling me that you could care less about the demographics changing, and the speed at which it is happening? Are you telling me that you are unable to think about how this will effect the U.S. economically, socially, and culturally? Are you telling me that the couple of hundred years building up of a European-based society was all for naught, and that it's okay for a white nation to go by the wayside? If such is the case, how about importing three hundred million black Africans into China. How about them becoming a minority in their own land.

Why do you think like you do? It's unnatural, in my opinion.

Blacks all over the world are "disadvantaged", and they are offered affirmative action in the work force, college entrance, and government contracts. They have, furthermore, never built an advanced society. If you disagree, then that's your right, but it wouldn't be intellectually honest.

Blacks, on average, have the lowest IQs of all groups of races, regardless of where they live. Do you think that this could have something to do with socioeconomic status and, hence, poverty? Do you think that IQ could have something to do with it?

Asians, on a large scale, are not disadvantaged. Most Asians that make it to the US are the high achievers of their countries, the ones that have the ambition and success to leave for America. And, on a large scale, their children are going to follow in their footsteps.

I went to school with several Asians who came to the U.S. with little knowledge of the English language. One ended up graduating as Valedictorian of his Senior Class. His family lived in a very small two bedroom home. They were not wealthy or advantaged by any means.

The fact is that East Asians, on average, have higher IQs, hence they do well. Why is this so hard for you to understand?[/quote]

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by gt6974a

Elitist attidtude. I live in Acworth, graduated from North Cobb (GT alumn) 96, my dad 68 (UGA alumn). It's now a 'black' school. We're still here!

Nice try...you don't have any kids yet, gt...and you have screamed many-a-time how you will "neva" let your kids go to those schools in Acworth.