Atl or chicago (Atlanta, Boston, Berlin: mortgage, skyscrapers, apts)

[afonega1]

Originally Posted by welder

As far as DENSITY? I don't think so. Atlanta has less than 1/3 the density of Chicago. A city's (or metro area) population doesn't mean it will be 'DENSER' or less 'DENSER' than another city will the same population or less. There are city's will smaller populations that are 'DENSER' than cities with larger populations. Atlanta will NEVER look or feel like Chicago, PERIOD! Not in 50 yrs, or 100 yrs for that matter.

ok.....next..

[welder]

Originally Posted by afonega1

ok.....next..

Make ANOTHER untrue statement, and then we can move onto the "NEXT"! LOL

[welder]

Just to prove my point, I'll give you an EXAMPLE. San Fransico city population is 765,000 people. Yet, San Fransico is 1/4 (or 25%) MORE dense than Chicago. Even though, Chicago has 2 million more people. Do you understand what I'm saying now? Cities, for the most part, even with a 'boom' in populations, just get to be BIGGER versions of what they already were and looked like. With poplulation increases in ATL, the metro area (suburbs and outlying areas) will continue to grow also. To think that ATL is ever going to be as urban as Chicago, is unrealistic in my eyes. Sunbelt cities, love sprawl. And the people who move to them, I guess do too.

[ATLCOL1]

Originally Posted by welder

Just to prove my point, I'll give you an EXAMPLE. San Fransico city population is 765,000 people. Yet, San Fransico is 1/4 (or 25%) MORE dense than Chicago. Even though, Chicago has 2 million more people. Do you understand what I'm saying now? Cities, for the most part, even with a 'boom' in populations, just get to be BIGGER versions of what they already were and looked like. With poplulation increases in ATL, the metro area (suburbs and outlying areas) will continue to grow also. To think that ATL is ever going to be as urban as Chicago, is unrealistic in my eyes. Sunbelt cities, love sprawl. And the people who move to them, I guess do too.

Atlanta is becoming more urban by the day. Just look at all of the construction of new high-rise buildings as well as dense condo and apartment developments downtown, midtown, and Buckhead. People are moving back to the city. Atlanta is poised for great things due to this shift back to the city.

[welder]

Originally Posted by ATLCOL1

Atlanta is becoming more urban by the day. Just look at all of the construction of new high-rise buildings as well as dense condo and apartment developments downtown, midtown, and Buckhead. People are moving back to the city. Atlanta is poised for great things due to this shift back to the city.

I got news for you and everyone else. The 'building boom', for the most part, is going to slow down, if not completely stop in some areas. The way the economy is, the BIG projects, will be far and few between. Progress is going to slow NATIONWIDE. Most American cities got a BIG brand new paint job over the last 15 yrs or so. It's a good thing too. Cause it's going to be awhile before they see that kind of investment in them.

[afonega1]

You just trying to pull me in are'nt you?LOL Did you read the article.What you are saying is incosistent with what the census says.The City of Atlanta had THE highest increase in AMERICA since 2000-2007.Not the SUBURBS.Chicago has sprawl too and lot of it.Chicago the city rarely grows,it looses or maintain.It grew at a whopping HALF PERCENT!!Boston is denser than Atlanta but consideralbly smaller.Phoenix and Houston are 5 times the size of of Atlanta.When it come to densisty though theres no runaway winner.If Atlanta annexes,and keeps growing and chicago continues to loose at their perspective current rates it very posibble.What i was trying to say as far as stature in the world,and recognition and importance ALONG with growth,Atlanta will be on that level without a doubt.Otherwise How can a city as small as Atlanta be as mentioned in media and have the clout of forturne 500 busines headquater here among other important things that make it standout?No im not suggesting that today Atlanta is on Chicago's level ,but in 50 years no problem.You really do not klnow this city like I know it.
Look at these things:
2007 population of US cities -- Census Bureau - Boston.com

and

Table of United States Metropolitan Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and from the Brookings INS.
Older Cities Hold On to More People, Census Shows - Brookings Institution notice what is said about Atlanta!Apparently its not just any other sunbelt city!!

[afonega1]

You right but those cities that have had the momementum will fair much better than those standing still or losing population.

[welder]

Originally Posted by afonega1

You just trying to pull me in are'nt you?LOL Did you read the article.What you are saying is incosistent with what the census says.The City of Atlanta had THE highest increase in AMERICA since 2000-2007.Not the SUBURBS.Chicago has sprawl too and lot of it.Chicago the city rarely grows,it looses or maintain.It grew at a whopping HALF PERCENT!!Boston is denser than Atlanta but consideralbly smaller.Phoenix and Houston are 5 times the size of of Atlanta.When it come to densisty though theres no runaway winner.If Atlanta annexes,and keeps growing and chicago continues to loose at their perspective current rates it very posibble.What i was trying to say as far as stature in the world,and recognition and importance ALONG with growth,Atlanta will be on that level without a doubt.Otherwise How can a city as small as Atlanta be as mentioned in media and have the clout of forturne 500 busines headquater here among other important things that make it standout?No im not suggesting that today Atlanta is on Chicago's level ,but in 50 years no problem.You really do not klnow this city like I know it.
Look at these things:
2007 population of US cities -- Census Bureau - Boston.com

and

Table of United States Metropolitan Statistical Areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and from the Brookings INS.
Older Cities Hold On to More People, Census Shows - Brookings Institution notice what is said about Atlanta!Apparently its not just any other sunbelt city!!

The 'metro area' of ATL is NOT small. If it WASN'T as sprawled with ALL that population, it wouldn't be metioned as much (like if the metro area was 1.5 or 2 million). Believe me, having a 'metro area' of 5 million plus, IS a big deal. But ATL, will NEVER look or FEEL like Chicago, no MATTER how much YOU want it to. Are you ALSO, trying to say that ANY 'building up' of cities, in going to continue as it has in the past 15 yrs or so? As we're ALL SEEING now, ALOT of it, was FLUFF! Nothing more than a house built 'out of a deck of cards'.

I'm not saying that were're going into a 'Great Depression' or anything. But, house and condo building is going to be ALOT different in the NEAR future. Lending practices, are DEFIENTLY going to be different. It may be a long time before you see another 'BOOM CYCLE'.

[rswlguy]

The OP thread is almost a month old.
Total ATL overkill. Dead topic. Move on. Next.

[afonega1]

Originally Posted by welder

The 'metro area' of ATL is NOT small. If it WASN'T as sprawled with ALL that population, it wouldn't be metioned as much (like if the metro area was 1.5 or 2 million). Believe me, having a 'metro area' of 5 million plus, IS a big deal. But ATL, will NEVER look or FEEL like Chicago, no MATTER how much YOU want it to. Are you ALSO, trying to say that ANY 'building up' of cities, in going to continue as it has in the past 15 yrs or so? As we're ALL SEEING now, ALOT of it, was FLUFF! Nothing more than a house built 'out of a deck of cards'.

I'm not saying that were're going into a 'Great Depression' or anything. But, house and condo building is going to be ALOT different in the NEAR future. Lending practices, are DEFIENTLY going to be different. It may be a long time before you see another 'BOOM CYCLE'.

1)Atlanta has been booming for 30 years.
2)Chicago while a really good city,is not a great city,.Atlanta has its own neighborhoods that are among the best in the country.I like the the single family house with the backdrop of the skyscrapers towering over the trees.Because it is a hard city to get around many people miss out on the beauty here.I love the hills and meandering streets.I NEVER want it to be just like Chicago or NYC.There are Elements that Chicago and other cities have that i want for Atlanta,and for the most part its on its way or already there in some regards.I
Im not talking about the metro area.Im talking about the City (134 sq miles)Chicago has 237 sq feet