Atlanta vs. Charlotte (Commerce, Pitts: business, locations, population)

[Carolina Blue]

Originally Posted by bgNCATL

Dude, I know a lot about Charlotte. I was talking about Skyscrapers. Those are buildings and one is maybe a mid-rise building. In Atlanta, the Mandarin Hotel will be 70+ stories and 1400 peachtree is in the Design phase and could be a new tallest for Atlanta. What about 12th & Midtown and the entire Midtown Mile. Then you have the office building proposal at Allen Plaza which is over 50 stories. These projects are what I call skyscrapers. There are more, but I don't feel like naming them all. If you are talking about buildings like your pictures, Atlanta have those size buildings going up everywhere. What I was stating is that, Charlotte days of skyscrapers 40+ stories poping up everwhere is over for a long time. The Skyscraper boom is over. It may continue to build low-rise to mid-rise building here and there, but that's it. I don't see Trump building there for at least 5 years if at all.

Dude, I have no idea what city you're talking about, and I don't think you know either. 40 story buildings poping up everywhere??? There are only four buildings in Charlotte with 40 stories or more, and only one of them was built within the past 15 years. I like the way you tried to clean up your first statements after I posted those pix. But your follow-up above goes back to my point about throwing stuff at the wall just to see if it sticks.

[bgNCATL]

Originally Posted by Carolina Blue

Dude, I have no idea what city you're talking about, and I don't think you know either. 40 story buildings poping up everywhere??? There are only four buildings in Charlotte with 40 stories or more, and only one of them was built within the past 15 years. I like the way you tried to clean up your first statements after I posted those pix. But your follow-up above goes back to my point about throwing stuff at the wall just to see if it sticks.

I was not cleaning up anything. Charlotte had mutiple proposals a few years ago that was 40+; Some just didn't get built. I guess I should have said poping up and being proposed. Remember when Charlotte seemed to be getting a proposal every other week? I'm saying that those days are over.

[Mishap]

Originally Posted by DeaconJ

Losing C&S, First Atlanta, Bank South, Fulton Federal, etc. was a blow to the city...but Atlanta still has SunTrust, the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, the Federal Home Loan Bank of Atlanta, and a host of smaller bank headquarters as well as international bank locations. Actually Atlanta is still one of the largest banking centers in the U.S.:


How Charlotte became a banking giant, outpacing Pittsburgh's banks

That article includes Wachovia's nearly 800B of assets in its calculation. Technically Charlotte and San Francisco have swapped places since Wells Fargo is based out of SF. Wells will likely keep on a fair # of Wachovia people but I don't think it's anywhere near the size/scale that it was before Wachovia got destroyed by that disastrous Golden West acquisition. If NC plays it smart and fosters some hedge funds/investment banking activity in the area, they may keep a fair number of very smart people in town. Otherwise you'll likely see some flee for other banking centers around the country since its unlikely BOA is dealing w/ a resource shortage right now.

[atlantagreg30127]

Originally Posted by Carolina Blue

Dude, I have no idea what city you're talking about, and I don't think you know either. 40 story buildings poping up everywhere??? There are only four buildings in Charlotte with 40 stories or more, and only one of them was built within the past 15 years. I like the way you tried to clean up your first statements after I posted those pix. But your follow-up above goes back to my point about throwing stuff at the wall just to see if it sticks.

We're coming close to insulting folks in some of these posts, people.

This isn't the skyscraper pages. We don't get mental woods attacking folks over "who's is bigger".... so, let's chill out just a bit. A city is measured by how well the citizens of that city enjoy living there, the amenities it offers it's residents, level of crime, public services, and more. NOT how tall the buildings are. They're certainly not worth fighting about.

[Akhenaton06]

Originally Posted by atlantaATL

Plans right ? is it Underconstruction? And its light rail service. The only plans Atlanta has right now is the beltline. The same people may not be in office 30 years from from now.Until the Number of miles and rider ship and stations out number Atlanta then ill say it has left Atlanta in the Slow lane

But come on man, if the state of Georgia won't even let y'all plan your own way out of more and more congestion, that's not a good thing. I know plans are only good once executed, but Charlotte has a structure in place that Atlanta does not--and that's due to the way our state treats us vs. the way Georgia treats Atlanta.

[Akhenaton06]

Originally Posted by J2rescue

I do find it interesting that the Georgia legislature is in some ways responsible for Charlotte becoming the banking town that it is due to the state's archaic banking laws at the time.

No, North Carolina was simply more progressive in this area than not just Georgia, but several other states that also got their largest state-based banks gobbled up by NC banks (e.g., SC, VA, etc.).

[gaflsc]

From today's AJC:

Rivalry to be economic King of South heats up | ajc.com

[Akhenaton06]

Originally Posted by gaflsc

From today's AJC:

Rivalry to be economic King of South heats up | ajc.com

That link was posted a little earlier.

The comments are interesting. A lot of people don't even focus on any sort of "rivalry," but just the way the state of Georgia in general does things. It's crazy. North Carolina ain't perfect, but I do believe that it's a more progressive state than Georgia. But hey, it could be worse. Georgia could have short-sighted politicians without an economic juggernaut like Atlanta--which pretty much amounts to my home state of South Carolina.

[Akhenaton06]

Someone made a good point on another message board I frequent. It seems as though these types of pieces really don't concern any actual "rivalry" (as we all know that Atlanta is simply in another league than Charlotte), but they are really meant to try and light a fire under the GA Legislature to demonstrate what actually MAY happen if they don't get their heads out of their behinds.

[bgNCATL]

Originally Posted by Akhenaton06

Someone made a good point on another message board I frequent. It seems as though these types of pieces really don't concern any actual "rivalry" (as we all know that Atlanta is simply in another league than Charlotte), but they are really meant to try and light a fire under the GA Legislature to demonstrate what actually MAY happen if they don't get their heads out of their behinds.

LoL This is very true! I never looked at it that way.