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Old 11-12-2008, 01:51 AM
 
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Well to be fair, there are a lot of white people that cannot speak a word of proper English. Even such simple things as I did well versus I did good. My favorite is when anyone of any background says, and I quote, "Well the teacher was like, 'you are wrong Johnny,' and Johnny goes, 'no, idiot, you are wrong,' and the teacher goes again, 'step out of the class..." Goes instead of says cracks me up every time. And btw, if you research any history, many blacks have come to say "axe" instead of "ask" and you know where they came to learn that discrepancy? In the south from their slaveowners who were originally from rural (I think SE England but don't quote me) England. It was their native dialect and was passed down. So technically speaking we cannot include the infamous "axe" Gary commercial as being a commercial in ebonics.
Good point...and dialects and languages are different and constantly evolving, being passed down, etc. The way a group of people speak is always historical, etc...not wrong.

 
Old 11-12-2008, 11:27 AM
 
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Well the axe/ask part was in this documentary, and I'm sure if other ebonics were passed down and not invented as modern "language" then they would have been included but that is not the case. We all have certain different dialects, but some people take it very far and include that in daily language when speaking with anyone. And then they wonder why they do not have a job outside of low wage or government or period.
 
Old 11-12-2008, 11:34 AM
 
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Well the axe/ask part was in this documentary, and I'm sure if other ebonics were passed down and not invented as modern "language" then they would have been included but that is not the case. We all have certain different dialects, but some people take it very far and include that in daily language when speaking with anyone. And then they wonder why they do not have a job outside of low wage or government or period.

Black English or African-American Vernacular English!
 
Old 11-12-2008, 12:21 PM
 
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Black English or African-American Vernacular English!
Come on jsimms3...didn't you get the memo? You are required to use HIS terminology and support HIS ideas at all times when responding within this thread. Otherwise, you will get a strongly worded reort!
 
Old 11-12-2008, 12:22 PM
 
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Come on jsimms3...didn't you get the memo? You are required to use HIS terminology and support his ideas at all times when responding within this thread. Otherwise, you will get a strongly worded reort!
Please be nice.
 
Old 11-12-2008, 12:40 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Black English or African-American Vernacular English!
Hey I defended the whole "axe" versus ask, don't I at least get props for that Aries?
 
Old 11-12-2008, 12:59 PM
 
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Hey I defended the whole "axe" versus ask, don't I at least get props for that Aries?
Totally...and I did give you props already, jsimms! (See earlier post).
 
Old 11-12-2008, 01:00 PM
 
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Good point...and dialects and languages are different and constantly evolving, being passed down, etc. The way a group of people speak is always historical, etc...not wrong.
My "givin' props" post, jsimms!
 
Old 11-12-2008, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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According to Futurama, in 1,000 years 'ask' will be an archaic pronunciation of 'axe'.
 
Old 11-12-2008, 02:01 PM
 
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According to Futurama, in 1,000 years 'ask' will be an archaic pronunciation of 'axe'.
lol.

But languages do evolve...
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