Looking for majority white areas of the Metro (Atlanta, Sandy Springs: foreclosures, house)

[BringBackCobain]

In response to the posts about Sandy Springs and Dunwoody, they may be getting more white now that they are thier own cities. Mayor of Dunwoody is putting a 5 year moratorium on any new apartments in Dunwoody. Eva Galambos (mayor of Sandy Springs) has vowed to bring the cities rental percentage down to 25% by ecouraging Roswell Road apartments to be torn down and replaced with owner-occupied housing.

[GF72]

That's not really going to make those places more white, it'll just make them more similar to places like East Cobb and Roswell where there are hardly any renters. Mainly it will affect the hispanic population (mainly on Roswell Road), but it won't really affect the black population too much and won't change the Asian population at all. With the decline in rental population the schools will probably get better, which tends to attract high wealth Asian families. Look at Walton High (15% Asian), Northview High (30% Asian), Chattahoochee High (20% Asian). And Walton High district is like, 99% owner occupied.

[BringBackCobain]

Originally Posted by GF72

That's not really going to make those places more white, it'll just make them more similar to places like East Cobb and Roswell where there are hardly any renters. Mainly it will affect the hispanic population (mainly on Roswell Road), but it won't really affect the black population too much and won't change the Asian population at all. With the decline in rental population the schools will probably get better, which tends to attract high wealth Asian families. Look at Walton High (15% Asian), Northview High (30% Asian), Chattahoochee High (20% Asian). And Walton High district is like, 99% owner occupied.

Well yes, the complexes south of 285 to the Atlanta city limits, and especially around the Northwoods area are Hispanic, but the ones north of 285 in the North Springs area of the city are mostly black. These are primarily north of Johnson Ferry and these complexes are dotted along Roswell all the way to the river. Dunwoody Place, Pitt Road, etc. If these are all torn down, there goes 75% of Sandy Springs black population.

One thing to note though, what will happen as the complexes in Perimeter Center continue to age. Will they become minority, like most garden style complexes in Atlanta become, or will they be like the apartments in Buckhead and 'go condo'.

Sandy Springs schools are mostly minority, except for Heards Ferry and Riverwood. It will take years for those to improve to the point where they will attract asians.

[gt6974a]

If the dems can get Amnesty for all the illegal aliens, and then get a Mexican candidate, then Georgia will definitely be blue next election.

[GF72]

Originally Posted by BringBackCobain

Well yes, the complexes south of 285 to the Atlanta city limits, and especially around the Northwoods area are Hispanic, but the ones north of 285 in the North Springs area of the city are mostly black. These are primarily north of Johnson Ferry and these complexes are dotted along Roswell all the way to the river. Dunwoody Place, Pitt Road, etc. If these are all torn down, there goes 75% of Sandy Springs black population.

One thing to note though, what will happen as the complexes in Perimeter Center continue to age. Will they become minority, like most garden style complexes in Atlanta become, or will they be like the apartments in Buckhead and 'go condo'.

Sandy Springs schools are mostly minority, except for Heards Ferry and Riverwood. It will take years for those to improve to the point where they will attract asians.

You're right, Asians will go to Dunwoody before Sandy Springs (which is already true, Dunwoody is almost 10% Asian despite being worse than Sandy Springs public schools, but I think that's due to a lower barrier of entry; Sandy Springs single family homes are usually straight up upper class than typical upper middle class).

Also, Sandy Springs schools have large minority population because most whites use private school, and the minorities are bused in from elsewhere in Fulton, same with North Atlanta High in Buckhead. Those people don't live in Sandy Springs (apart from the minorities along Roswell Road).

About Perimeter, I think Perimeter is so centrally located and contains so many higher end jobs that the multi-family sector is only going to get wealthier. So I'd say many will "go condo" like Buckhead, but it will be gradual. Perimeter definitely has a condo market (for example the tower next to the Super Target). I think the "minority apartment" crowd will focus more on Alpharetta.

[LovinDecatur]

Originally Posted by BringBackCobain

In response to the posts about Sandy Springs and Dunwoody, they may be getting more white now that they are thier own cities. Mayor of Dunwoody is putting a 5 year moratorium on any new apartments in Dunwoody. Eva Galambos (mayor of Sandy Springs) has vowed to bring the cities rental percentage down to 25% by ecouraging Roswell Road apartments to be torn down and replaced with owner-occupied housing.

I'm pretty certain that behind what was perceived as an inequitable redistribution of revenues in DeKalb, the second concern of those voting for Dunwoody cityhood was the alarming amount of apartment complex construction being approved by the county in their neighborhood. In 30 years, those complexes would be aged and lowering their rents and standards...exactly what happened on Buford Highway and on Roswell Rd in Sandy Springs.

[GF72]

Yeah, Dunwoody should be like East Cobb, but Dekalb County has no problem approving apartments everywhere.

Personally, I think that Perimeter should be an incorporated city and be zoned for all multi-family housing in the area, and Sandy Springs and Dunwoody would be single-family.

But I highly doubt either city would be willing to give up their slice of that cash cow.

[elston]

Did the OP say what race they are? They obviously don't understand that Fair Housing means that anyone can buy and move anywhere they can afford....and their housing budget won't put them anywhere too exclusive. Now it may be that they won't be seen as desirable neighbors...so they might find an enclave of similar minded Moderator Removed - leave name calling OUT, please. , but more likely if they look in a trailor park rather than a nice neighborhood. Their white majority is soon going to be a thing of the past....even without immigration. They had best learn to live in the real world, especially if they have children.

They are in the same boat as Groucho Marx who said any club that would admit him into membership....wasn't good enough for him.

[LovinDecatur]

Originally Posted by GF72

Yeah, Dunwoody should be like East Cobb, but Dekalb County has no problem approving apartments everywhere.

Personally, I think that Perimeter should be an incorporated city and be zoned for all multi-family housing in the area, and Sandy Springs and Dunwoody would be single-family.

But I highly doubt either city would be willing to give up their slice of that cash cow.

But then Dunwoody would suffer from a lack of large scale commercial property in their tax base; it's one reason that taxes are so high in the city of Decatur.

[GF72]

Well Dunwoody's residential tax base is much wealthier than Decatur's though. In Decatur it can be high or low, in Dunwoody it's high across the board. Dunwoody zip code 30338 (which contains pretty much the whole residential area, 30,000+ population) has an average household income of $130,000. That's the exact same Johns Creek (except Johns Creek is double the population, at 60,000+) and Johns Creek is all residential as well.

Plus Decatur operates its own school system, which is expensive. Like I said Dunwoody won't want to give up that commercial money, but at the same time, letting go of their share of Perimeter would mean they wouldn't have to worry about that multi-family population, nor Perimeter itself, which is surely more costly to maintain than residential Dunwoody. That's the whole point of the self-taxing Perimeter CID - if they were their own city it wouldn't be necessary. Right now Perimeter has to resort to self taxing itself (across two different groups because of the county split) to upkeep their own land, that would all be solved if they were a city. Besides, Decatur city contains a good amount of commercial area, it's a much more dynamic city, hence the high taxes. Dunwoody is just a sleepy suburb, it wouldn't cost as much and the residential tax base is richer; I don't think they'd have problems.