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Old 11-15-2008, 09:26 AM
 
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Haralson schools could lose accreditation | ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/clayton/stories/2008/11/13/haralson_school_accreditation.html - broken link)

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The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools voted Sunday to place the Haralson County schools on probation, SACS president and chief executive officer Mark A. Elgart said. Haralson County, which has 4,000 students, is about 50 miles west of Atlanta on the Alabama border.
It looks like another county in Georgia may lose its SACS accreditation due to actions by yet another inept school board. Not shocking to me.
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Old 11-15-2008, 10:06 AM
 
Location: West Metro Atlanta
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Haralson schools could lose accreditation | ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/clayton/stories/2008/11/13/haralson_school_accreditation.html - broken link)

It looks like another county in Georgia may lose its SACS accreditation due to actions by yet another inept school board. Not shocking to me.
I should point out that this doesnt include Bremen City Schools.
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Old 11-16-2008, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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Boy Georgia is having quite a year! And people want to remove money from education to help fund projects like residential and retail developments?
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Old 11-16-2008, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Fairburn, GA. (South Fulton County)
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Yes, it's pretty sad. But, look at some of these people on school boards. Most of them do not have any classroom experience or experience in a school setting. Many of them have corporate jobs or community jobs, or something like that. These people are in charge of the functions of schools and academics of entire counties. Public School systems are doomed from the beginning. Sure, you have Superintendents, but, the School Board can override them. It's just ridiculous.
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Old 11-16-2008, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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And people want to remove money from education to help fund projects like residential and retail developments?
If you're referring to the recently passed amendment, you're 100% correct.

I think it boils down to some people who have absolutely no clue what they're voting for, and instead of educating themselves or voting NO to leave something they are unsure of unchanged, they vote YES without any concept of the meaning of their vote.

How many voters do you think actually researched and read up on the amendments before voting? 25%? 50%?
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Old 11-16-2008, 09:28 PM
 
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If you're referring to the recently passed amendment, you're 100% correct.

I think it boils down to some people who have absolutely no clue what they're voting for, and instead of educating themselves or voting NO to leave something they are unsure of unchanged, they vote YES without any concept of the meaning of their vote.

How many voters do you think actually researched and read up on the amendments before voting? 25%? 50%?
Amendment 2 doesn't remove any funds from education, but diverts some property taxes to new developments that would help increase the value of property in a particular school district...then repays the funds through future property taxes. The schools aren't losing any money and the developments increase the value of property within their district.
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Old 11-17-2008, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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Amendment 2 doesn't remove any funds from education, but diverts some property taxes to new developments that would help increase the value of property in a particular school district...then repays the funds through future property taxes. The schools aren't losing any money and the developments increase the value of property within their district.
Aren't property taxes used to fund education? So, if you remove a revenue stream, then doesn't the recipient receive less money now?
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Old 11-17-2008, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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Amendment 2 doesn't remove any funds from education
“Shall the Constitution of Georgia be amended so as to authorize community redevelopment and authorize counties, municipalities, and local boards of education to use tax funds for redevelopment purposes and programs?"

When you divert money from a Board of Education to other purposes and programs, where do you think the money would have gone?
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:08 PM
 
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“Shall the Constitution of Georgia be amended so as to authorize community redevelopment and authorize counties, municipalities, and local boards of education to use tax funds for redevelopment purposes and programs?"

When you divert money from a Board of Education to other purposes and programs, where do you think the money would have gone?
The TAD only freezes the amount of money at the current level. So the school will see no "ADDITIONAL" funding, which would be produced by increase property value due to investment in the blighted area. So the schools see no change in funding, which would be the same tax base if the area had no tad investment. It a net zero for the school system, until after the bonds are paid. Then the schools can tap into the increase property taxes.

The amendment was needed because under the constitution you couldnt divert the additional taxes from the schools from the increase in property values due to the TAD. This is circular referencing, because without the TAD there would be no tax increases to divert.
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Old 11-17-2008, 01:26 PM
 
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The TAD only freezes the amount of money at the current level. So the school will see no "ADDITIONAL" funding, which would be produced by increase property value due to investment in the blighted area. So the schools see no change in funding, which would be the same tax base if the area had no tad investment. It a net zero for the school system, until after the bonds are paid. Then the schools can tap into the increase property taxes.

The amendment was needed because under the constitution you couldnt divert the additional taxes from the schools from the increase in property values due to the TAD. This is circular referencing, because without the TAD there would be no tax increases to divert.
Thank you...yours is an easier explanation to comprehend.
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