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01-17-2009, 12:35 PM
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I think it would be a good idea for Atlanta to annex "everything" inside the 285 beltway 
This would include Vinnings to the West, East Point and College Park to the South, and Panthersville, to Decatur, to Doraville in the East
Sure it's a multi-county annexation but think of the wonderful opportunity for the city. The additional revenue coming in from the Druid Hills, Decatur locations for example would be beneficial to the City Council. Think about the world of opportunity here!
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01-17-2009, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BringBackCobain
Actually, state law says that cities can annex across county lines, but it must be approved by the largest city in the county that is being annexed.
Atlanta tried to annex lower East Cobb many years ago, which is why Chattahoochee Plantation was created, to block the annexation measure.
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Sorry Cobain, skipped the second page before I posted. You got their first.
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01-17-2009, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Georgia
I think it would be a good idea for Atlanta to annex "everything" inside the 285 beltway 
This would include Vinnings to the West, East Point and College Park to the South, and Panthersville, to Decatur, to Doraville in the East
Sure it's a multi-county annexation but think of the wonderful opportunity for the city. The additional revenue coming in from the Druid Hills, Decatur locations for example would be beneficial to the City Council. Think about the world of opportunity here!
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I see a similar solution, but instead of crossing various county lines, I believe Atlanta and all of Dekalb and Futon south of the new incorporated cities should merge.
To allow for some local input, it should do like Greater London or NYC and have boroughs. London would be the better example, smaller boroughs of around 100,000 each, giving Decatur, East Point, Buckhead, Tucker, Brookhaven Stone Mountain, etc some identity within the broader framework.
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01-17-2009, 01:22 PM
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so -- lets give everything inside 285 to the City of Atlanta and Fulton County---the city of Atlanta has poor test scores, high drop out rate, has the highest rate of crime in the metro area, highest homeless rate, pan handling is a major problem, they can't manage a budget, can't recruit and retain the best Police officers - then can't give them a raise, had to close a fire station - the Fulton County Jail is under Federal supervision - because they can't manage themselves, the water department is a disgrace, they can't properly collect property taxes and the assessments are all over the map....
Did I forget anything?
I say again - the city of Atlanta can't manage themselves----if you can point to a positive that the City has accomplished it should be measured against their current and former body of work---former mayor sent to prison - lets do it----the city of Atlanta, the coucil, et al. are proof psoitve of the Peter Principle - adding anymore to their plates would cause their heads to explode.
This will never happen-- but if it did the level of incompetence would soar to heights unknown and would be a bigger disaster than the French military in WWII.
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01-17-2009, 05:37 PM
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The current cronies in city hall wouldn't want to extend into Cobb County despite the large tax revenues that could be generated in Vinings. Why? The current system is having trouble with gentrification eating into their guaranteed electorate victories, so why add fuel to that fire with part of an infamously fiscally conservative county? Just annexing Vinings and area could overthrow the electorate the system needs to stay in power.
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01-17-2009, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by runningncircles1
The current cronies in city hall wouldn't want to extend into Cobb County despite the large tax revenues that could be generated in Vinings. Why? The current system is having trouble with gentrification eating into their guaranteed electorate victories, so why add fuel to that fire with part of an infamously fiscally conservative county? Just annexing Vinings and area could overthrow the electorate the system needs to stay in power.
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I only foresee a change coming from the state level. The current outdated county and city structure that served the state well in the 19th century is holding the metro area back, IMO. The current power structure would never accomplish anything broader based for the city of Atlanta the way it is currently set up.
How would this happen? I can foresee this scenario: If there were a complete meltdown of the government of Atlanta city and Fulton and DeKalb governments, I can see the state having to come rescue the situation and causing some sort of merger of inefficient systems. The Soviet Union and Iron Curtain fell, is this not beyond happening in Atlanta?
Greater London did this sometime in the not too distant past, would have to look it up, but I know it was post WWII. A new structure to meet modern times and consolidate a bunch of competing overlapping governmental systems.
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01-17-2009, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Georgia
I think it would be a good idea for Atlanta to annex "everything" inside the 285 beltway 
This would include Vinnings to the West, East Point and College Park to the South, and Panthersville, to Decatur, to Doraville in the East
Sure it's a multi-county annexation but think of the wonderful opportunity for the city. The additional revenue coming in from the Druid Hills, Decatur locations for example would be beneficial to the City Council. Think about the world of opportunity here!
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Yep! Yep! This would be a grand idea (with some modifications of course).
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01-17-2009, 09:31 PM
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I used to live in vinings and loved it for its beauty and proximity to the city. However, it's very Republican and has some of the highest Rep. contributors in the entire state... But It's the cool republicans, the ones that only are concerned with keeping their hard earned money and they don't care as much about the right wingers or gay rights or any of that other nonsense that doesn't matter in the real world.
Cobb county also is much much much more efficent in development regs. than Atlanta. There is no road in ATL that can compete with Cumberland parkway (or boul..?) as far as beauty and we owe it all to the strict landscaping laws of Cobb county.
I think they are doing fine on their own.
I usually bash atlanta but I'm in a good mood tonight and also I've had many people from out of state tell me its a unique place.
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01-18-2009, 12:25 AM
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Vinings would be silly to be annexed by Atlanta and see its taxes fly up. The only reason to need to incorporate is to direct some of your own taxes towards capital improvement projects like Smyrna has been doing. However, getting incorporated by Atlanta would not give Vinings/Cumberland access to any more funds than they get through Cobb County.
I'm not sure the point of this thread, since it will never happen.
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01-18-2009, 11:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Georgia
I think it would be a good idea for Atlanta to annex "everything" inside the 285 beltway 
This would include Vinnings to the West, East Point and College Park to the South, and Panthersville, to Decatur, to Doraville in the East
Sure it's a multi-county annexation but think of the wonderful opportunity for the city. The additional revenue coming in from the Druid Hills, Decatur locations for example would be beneficial to the City Council. Think about the world of opportunity here!
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Atlanta can't annex areas that are already incorporated...such as East Point, College Park, Decatur, and Doraville. These cities have been incorporated for more than a century. Vinings, on the other hand, is not incorporated and can be annexed by the city of Atlanta.
A big chunk of Druid Hills is already within the city limits.
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