Atlanta Airport(s). Should it be plural? (Macon, Dunwoody: rental car, rental)

[Psykomonkee]

Originally Posted by gaflsc

BringBackCobain makes a much better point that you do, albeit in a veiled way. Your reply is simply dumb.

No need for MLK airport. Every city (most every city) honors him with a street as it is now. IF another airport is built, have it honor another iconic figure that may be more recent.

Wow... Do I sense some hostility... I think both post were funny as they both were rediculous. I had a good laugh at both...

It's just funny to me sometimes how blacks and whites go back and forth over race and whites get all upset because they think blacks are overly sensative about it and don't understand why blacks are that way, then will say something rediculous like "cause there's no racism." And blacks get all upset with whites and shoot themselves in the foot blaming their problems on whites instead of outdoing them like they already know they HAVE TO DO just to be seen as equal to them in the eyes of whites. (Generally speaking for the ones that fit the description of-course).

It's just silly to me. Especially being that neither one of ya'll really belong here any more than the other. It's like Chinese and Brazilians bickering because they both have to coexist in Australia...

Fact is MLK was one of the greatest men to live in this country... He ought to be honored...
There ARE no Martin Luther King Airports today, and if there was going to be one, it should be in Atlanta.
So what they named some streets after him... Whooptie dooo... My grandfather has a street named after him to, and he didn't do $*#@ compared to Dr. King. Not to mention that those streets are usually located on the roughest side of town... YAY!!! "Thanks for the ghetto street guys!!!"
There aren't many people from Atlanta that have made a bigger impact on human life than Dr. King. And Just because an airport does get named after him doesn't mean that they are taking it too far, naming too many things after him and other black people. That notion is totally rediculous and embarrassing to know another American thinks so. Especially when nobody sees a problem with the South Carolina state capital still flying the Confederate flag, or bridges being name after Woodrow Wilson (the President that said the KKK was a great thing, and signed America's wealth away to a centralized banking system) He deserves nothing more than a tombstone over his grave.

I mean come on, really... What makes William B. Hartsfield so special and Maynard Jackson SO special as to get an airport named after themselves, but not MLK? So they were mayors of Atlanta.
Would you not say that MLK deserves a higher honor than Maynard Jackson???

[DeaconJ]

Originally Posted by Psykomonkee

Wow... Do I sense some hostility... I think both post were funny as they both were rediculous. I had a good laugh at both...

It's just funny to me sometimes how blacks and whites go back and forth over race and whites get all upset because they think blacks are overly sensative about it and don't understand why blacks are that way, then will say something rediculous like "cause there's no racism." And blacks get all upset with whites and shoot themselves in the foot blaming their problems on whites instead of outdoing them like they already know they HAVE TO DO just to be seen as equal to them in the eyes of whites. (Generally speaking for the ones that fit the description of-course).

It's just silly to me. Especially being that neither one of ya'll really belong here any more than the other. It's like Chinese and Brazilians bickering because they both have to coexist in Australia...

Fact is MLK was one of the greatest men to live in this country... He ought to be honored...
There ARE no Martin Luther King Airports today, and if there was going to be one, it should be in Atlanta.
So what they named some streets after him... Whooptie dooo... My grandfather has a street named after him to, and he didn't do $*#@ compared to Dr. King. Not to mention that those streets are usually located on the roughest side of town... YAY!!! "Thanks for the ghetto street guys!!!"
There aren't many people from Atlanta that have made a bigger impact on human life than Dr. King. And Just because an airport does get named after him doesn't mean that they are taking it too far, naming too many things after him and other black people. That notion is totally rediculous and embarrassing to know another American thinks so. Especially when nobody sees a problem with the South Carolina state capital still flying the Confederate flag, or bridges being name after Woodrow Wilson (the President that said the KKK was a great thing, and signed America's wealth away to a centralized banking system) He deserves nothing more than a tombstone over his grave.

I mean come on, really... What makes William B. Hartsfield so special and Maynard Jackson SO special as to get an airport named after themselves, but not MLK? So they were mayors of Atlanta.
Would you not say that MLK deserves a higher honor than Maynard Jackson???

While I agree with most of what you said, I have to disagree about Maynard Jackson, William Hartsfield, and Woodrow Wilson...almost anyone who devotes a large chunk of his/her life to public service and leadership in an honorable manner deserves at least a namesake bridge.

1. Hartsfield is widely considered one of the greatest mayors in Atlanta history. He served 6 terms (24 years), and is credited for developing the airport and Atlanta into an aviation leader - which is why the airport was named for him in the first place. He is also credited with the peaceful desegregation of Atlanta's schools at a time when most of the South had the federal government and the National Guard's presence forcing desegregation. There are many other achievements that are associated with Hartsfield...like annexation of Buckhead, creation of city parks, and generally improving the quality of life in Atlanta.

2. Maynard Jackson served 3 terms as mayor, 12 years, and was Atlanta's first black mayor. He was mayor during some of the city's defining moments - like when MARTA was completed and began service, and when the announcement was made that Atlanta would host the Olympics. He is credited with the modernization of the airport...basically with building it to the standards that created what we have today, which is the reason his name was added to the airport's title not long after he died.

3. Woodrow Wilson was president from 1913 to 1921 - not an era of harmonious relations between the U.S. government and black Americans. Racism was common and widespread...not that this makes it okay of course, but his views and policies are more a product of the era's overall ideology rather than an indictment of Wilson as a bad person or a bad president. It's a little different if someone continues with those same beliefs today...that was before society as a whole became enlightened regarding racial equality and human rights - and remember too that it was a mere 50 years after the abolishment of slavery. I don't know much about his achievements as president, but it's hard to sit here in 2009 and condemn someone for his beliefs during a time of completely different beliefs and values...and not to mention almost 100 years ago.

[Psykomonkee]

Originally Posted by DeaconJ

While I agree with most of what you said, I have to disagree about Maynard Jackson, William Hartsfield, and Woodrow Wilson...

Very well... I see your point with Woodrow Wilson. AND I can see why Jackson and (I already knew Hartsfield's story) Hartsfield are also important. And I wasn't disagreeing that they deserve namesakes. But, do you think that Maynard Jackson has made a bigger impact, and is more deserving of a namesake than Martin Luther King??? That I don't know...

[DeaconJ]

Originally Posted by Psykomonkee

Very well... I see your point with Woodrow Wilson. AND I can see why Jackson and (I already knew Hartsfield's story) Hartsfield are also important. And I wasn't disagreeing that they deserve namesakes. But, do you think that Maynard Jackson has made a bigger impact, and is more deserving of a namesake than Martin Luther King??? That I don't know...

No, not at all...you've seen my comments in this thread, so you know what I think of MLK and his importance to Atlanta and American civil rights. He is an icon...and his assination made him a true martyr - martyrs get much deserved honor and glory when their cause deserves it. To me, there is no more noble cause than the fight for civil and human rights, especially in the face of anger and violence.

Actually, I was a HUGE fan of Coretta's...she was so classy, and I love the way she continued to spread his message following his death. I got the chance to hear her speak once, and it made a lasting impression on me. She had a similar kind of effect as a speaker - sort of a feminine version of MLK.

I change my mind...I vote for Coretta Scott King Airport.

[Psykomonkee]

Sorry DeaconJ. I don't agree. I like Coretta, but I think MLK deserves the honor most.

On another note, that plot of land out in Dawson County that Atlanta owns for a possible 2nd Airport site. I am standing firm that I don't think it should be developed there...
ARCADIS, Imagine the result. Atlanta Drought Emergency Water Supply Feasibility Study.

This link shows that the same site is also under study for a possible new reservoir to help with Atlanta's water issues. I think that trumps the airport. WAY more important. Apparently the state of Alabama has a case against the Army Core of Engineers over their use of the Chattahoochie River. They are the ones who regulate the flow of water out of the dam at Lake Lanier, that waters North GA, East Alabama and West Florida. If this new reservoir is made, that will help the situation, however it will not help the airport relief issue.

I think that location is a bad idea anyway being that it's so hard to get to anyway. There are no major freeways, no access roads, and don't even think about extending Marta there...
F.Y.I: The State of VA just received $900 Million from the Federal Government to create a new line to the DC Metro (12 more stations) to connect the Metro to Dulles Airport. That will effectively make all 3 of DC's airports accessable by train from Both DC and Baltimore. The new Silver Line.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...r_Line_Map.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_...shington_Metro)
Until we can get things like this happening in Atlanta, I say an airport in Dawson County should not even be a consideration...

[Atlantasfinest]

Originally Posted by Psykomonkee

Sorry DeaconJ. I don't agree. I like Coretta, but I think MLK deserves the honor most.

On another note, that plot of land out in Dawson County that Atlanta owns for a possible 2nd Airport site. I am standing firm that I don't think it should be developed there...
ARCADIS, Imagine the result. Atlanta Drought Emergency Water Supply Feasibility Study.

This link shows that the same site is also under study for a possible new reservoir to help with Atlanta's water issues. I think that trumps the airport. WAY more important. Apparently the state of Alabama has a case against the Army Core of Engineers over their use of the Chattahoochie River. They are the ones who regulate the flow of water out of the dam at Lake Lanier, that waters North GA, East Alabama and West Florida. If this new reservoir is made, that will help the situation, however it will not help the airport relief issue.

I think that location is a bad idea anyway being that it's so hard to get to anyway. There are no major freeways, no access roads, and don't even think about extending Marta there...
F.Y.I: The State of VA just received $900 Million from the Federal Government to create a new line to the DC Metro (12 more stations) to connect the Metro to Dulles Airport. That will effectively make all 3 of DC's airports accessable by train from Both DC and Baltimore. The new Silver Line.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...r_Line_Map.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_...shington_Metro)
Until we can get things like this happening in Atlanta, I say an airport in Dawson County should not even be a consideration...

They are making things happen in the DC Metro/Va area...I'm so tired and embarrased that the Atlanta Metro cannot get their act together! With the status of The Atlanta Airport you would think we would be on that path but our stupid politicians and idiot followers just don't have the foresight. Sad ineed.

[aries4118]

Atlanta's second airport should be built either...

1. East of the city in the I-20 East Corridor

-or-

2. South/Southwest of the city in the I-85 South corridor (Central/South Coweta County)

-or-

3. Maybe South/Southeast of the city in the I-75 South corridor

-or-

4. Maybe at the present Fulton County Airport just west of the city



The site should be within 40/45 miles of Downtown Atlanta.

The second airport should be called Martin Luther King, Jr. (MLK) International Airport.

The first airport should be renamed William B. Hartsfield International Airport (especially since the new international terminal will be called the Maynard Jackson International Terminal; plus the planned commuter rail station at the airport will be called the Jackson Terminal station; we now have Maynard Jackson High School in Grant Park; and "Boulevard" in eastern Atlanta should just be renamed Maynard Jackson Boulevard...no need for complicated airport names.).

Case closed. Problem solved. Done.

[DeaconJ]

Originally Posted by Atlantasfinest

They are making things happen in the DC Metro/Va area...I'm so tired and embarrased that the Atlanta Metro cannot get their act together! With the status of The Atlanta Airport you would think we would be on that path but our stupid politicians and idiot followers just don't have the foresight. Sad ineed.

That didn't cover the whole story about the Silver Line in D.C. There is substantial opposition to the building of this line, and they may be resigned to BRT instead (a dedicated lane bus line). Every city has issues...so no need to be too embarassed - Atlanta isn't the only one...it's one of MANY.

Hartsfield was not only the world's busiest airport in 2008, it was also named the world's most efficient airport - for the third consecutive year. I'm thnking with these facts...why do we need another airport? It seems like an idea that would be a waste of money when we have the busiest yet most efficient one in the world already.

[Psykomonkee]

Originally Posted by DeaconJ

Hartsfield was not only the world's busiest airport in 2008, it was also named the world's most efficient airport - for the third consecutive year. I'm thnking with these facts...why do we need another airport? It seems like an idea that would be a waste of money when we have the busiest yet most efficient one in the world already.

But Deacon... You're right, we do not NEED a 2nd airport today. But that's not what the study was about. It says that Atlanta WILL need another airport in 2025. So, because we don't need one now, do we wait until 2025 when we will actually need one badly, THEN start planning for one. It'll be 20 years to late then.

"The solutions of tomorrow's problems have a need to be planned today" --Psykomonkee

[DeaconJ]

Originally Posted by Psykomonkee

But Deacon... You're right, we do not NEED a 2nd airport today. But that's not what the study was about. It says that Atlanta WILL need another airport in 2025. So, because we don't need one now, do we wait until 2025 when we will actually need one badly, THEN start planning for one. It'll be 20 years to late then.

"The solutions of tomorrow's problems have a need to be planned today" --Psykomonkee

Air travel could be obsolete by 2020...who knows.