Atlanta metro now eighth-largest in nation (Gainesville, Lawrenceville: vs, move, transport)

[Nomad443]

The size of the Washington, DC metro area depends on how it is counted. Sometimes the Census Bureau counts it using a "Primary Metropolitan Statistical Area" (PMSA), in which DC and Baltimore are counted separately as two distinct Metro areas--which just isn't realistic anymore. When that model is used, DC and its immediately adjacent counties is (or was) the 8th largest metro with 5,306,565 residents and Baltimore and its adjacent counties is the 20th largest metro with 2,668,056. This model is no longer realistic since the cities are so close, are increasingly integrated economically & politically (if not culturally), the suburbs lying between them have now merged, and many residents live in one and work in the other. Most analysts now use the Washington-Baltimore "Consolidated Metro Statistical Area" (CMSA) as a model which makes the Washington/Baltimore the 4th largest metro area in the nation (after NY, LA, & Chi) with well-over 8 million residents.

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by Nomad443

The size of the Washington, DC metro area depends on how it is counted. Sometimes the Census Bureau counts it using a "Primary Metropolitan Statistical Area" (PMSA), in which DC and Baltimore are counted separately as two distinct Metro areas--which just isn't realistic anymore. When that model is used, DC and its immediately adjacent counties is (or was) the 8th largest metro with 5,306,565 residents and Baltimore and its adjacent counties is the 20th largest metro with 2,668,056. This model is no longer realistic since the cities are so close, are increasingly integrated economically & politically (if not culturally), the suburbs lying between them have now merged, and many residents live in one and work in the other. Most analysts now use the Washington-Baltimore "Consolidated Metro Statistical Area" (CMSA) as a model which makes the Washington/Baltimore the 4th largest metro area in the nation (after NY, LA, & Chi) with well-over 8 million residents.

Exactly. I actually remarked about this earlier on this thread...

[thedudewiththeplan]

After a little more research, I found that LA actually does have a pretty extensive commuter rail network. It's called Metrolink and goes all the way to San Bernadino and Oceanside! Here is a link for it:

File:Metrolink.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Unfortunately, metro Atlanta is one of the very few large metro's without any form of commuter rail either already built or being constructed to the suburbs. They really do need to start something up!

[PKCorey]

This model is no longer realistic since the cities are so close, are increasingly integrated economically & politically (if not culturally)

Baltimore and Washington DC are like apples and oranges.

We may be 35 miles apart from one another but its like 2 completely different areas.

Anne Arundel and Howard Counties may have the closest connection to DC out of any of the Baltimore area counties.

Other than that, nothing is in common. 2 distinctly different places.

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by PKCorey

Baltimore and Washington DC are like apples and oranges.

We may be 35 miles apart from one another but its like 2 completely different areas.

Anne Arundel and Howard Counties may have the closest connection to DC out of any of the Baltimore area counties.

Other than that, nothing is in common. 2 distinctly different places.

San Francisco and Oakland...Dallas and Fort Worth...are also distinctly different places. But they still form one metropolitan area (per pair)...just like Washington and Baltimore. Ok?

[Psykomonkee]

Originally Posted by aries4118

San Francisco and Oakland...Dallas and Fort Worth...are also distinctly different places. But they still form one metropolitan area (per pair)...just like Washington and Baltimore. Ok?

I agree Aries... It depends on where you look, because some places consider it the Washington/Baltimore Metro area. That is why there is a Washington-Baltimore Parkway. A Baltimore Washington Int. Airport. Etc...

I have a place in Anne Arundel County, and there I get DC news and Baltimore news. DC and Baltimore radio. My water comes from Baltimore, but my gas is from DC.

It is in fact ONE large Metro area, no matter how different the two cities are.

What makes a METRO area, is when you have people living outside of the city center, but influenced and commute to the city for work and other things. Well, in 'the DMV,' people go to both DC and Baltimore. I work in DC. One of my co-workers lives in Bel-Air, MD (North of Baltiimore), another lives IN Baltimore County. Another lives in Glen Burnie, MD (just south of Baltimore). I also work with people who live in Gainesville, VA; Woodbridge, VA; Manassas, VA; Waldorf, MD; Springfield, VA; Columbia, MD; Laurel, MD; and Bowie, MD. Just look at those places on a map, and you'll see that it's one metro area.

Oh, and I once worked a temp (6 month assignment) at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, and my supervisor there lived in Fairfax, VA. Just take a look at a map, you'll see.

[Georgia]

More growth wanted even more by some of the posts
Honestly, we do not need any further population growth in this area as we have one issue which many other metro areas do not suffer from, being water!

Even with our massive rainfall we have been blessed with over the past month, Lanier is still down 16 foot, Hartwell is about down to mud puddle status, and others such as Oconee is losing inches.
This area has a sever infrastructure issue, which cannot keep up with the current growth, continuing to add bodies does not help

[PKCorey]

Originally Posted by aries4118

San Francisco and Oakland...Dallas and Fort Worth...are also distinctly different places. But they still form one metropolitan area (per pair)...just like Washington and Baltimore. Ok?

When you hear of those cities, one doesn't go without the other.

When you hear of Baltimore and DC, they usually don't go hand in hand. It's one without the other...

That's all I was saying, in my experience living there

That is why there is a Washington-Baltimore Parkway. A Baltimore Washington Int. Airport. Etc...

Now, now...It's the Baltimore-Washington Parkway not the other way around

DC is always trying to claim something ...DC has 2 airports but they still had to get their name on our airport too! Just greedy!

We were around first!

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by PKCorey

When you hear of those cities, one doesn't go without the other.

When you hear of Baltimore and DC, they usually don't go hand in hand. It's one without the other...

That's all I was saying, in my experience living there



Now, now...It's the Baltimore-Washington Parkway not the other way around

DC is always trying to claim something ...DC has 2 airports but they still had to get their name on our airport too! Just greedy!

We were around first!

It's just that the other pairs grew together first. That's why we've heard about them together longer. Washington-Baltimore is a relatively recent phenomenon...and they are one metro area.

You may not like it, but that's just the way it is!

[PKCorey]

You may not like it, but that's just the way it is!

I'll never accept it!