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Old 03-26-2009, 01:52 PM
 
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AJC is not liberal. Seriously people apparently don't want to read the news, they just want more Druges - more Hannities... more extreme political rants rather than reporting. It's really pathetic and the AJC is suffering in part for trying to be that.
If the AJC isnt liberal than Fox News isnt conservative! LOL
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Old 03-26-2009, 02:05 PM
 
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You apparently are not familiar with the AJC.

LOL indeed.
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Old 03-26-2009, 02:44 PM
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You pick ONE conservative and dont mention Cynthia Tucker, Jay Bookman, Mike Luckovich or all the other ultra-liberals that paper employs as proof that they arent biased to the left. LOL
There's also Shaunti Feldhahn on the right-winger side of AJC's editorial office.
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Old 03-26-2009, 02:51 PM
 
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Mike Luckovich is a Pulitzer Prize winning Editorial cartoonist that most big city papers would LOVE to have on staff. I don't care what his political leanings are, the guy is funny as hell.
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Old 03-26-2009, 04:04 PM
 
Location: East Cobb
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You pick ONE conservative and dont mention Cynthia Tucker, Jay Bookman, Mike Luckovich or all the other ultra-liberals that paper employs as proof that they arent biased to the left. LOL
I see this comment as just proving my point. As far as Georgia conservatives are concerned, it's not enough for the AJC to employ some conservative opinion writers, run plenty of conservative-viewpoint pieces from other sources and print a representative selection of letters from their red-blooded wingnut conservative readership. Oh noooo, the fact that some of their opinion writers can indeed be identified as having a liberal viewpoint means that the AJC is a shameless leftist rag. Puh-leeze, this is just so ridiculous.
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Old 03-27-2009, 06:43 AM
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Bob Barr is also a regular contributor to the AJC editorial page, so let's get the tally:

"Liberal": Bookman, Tucker, Lukovich, Sarvady

"Conservative": Wooten, Feldhahn, Barr

That's a very fair representation of the political veiwpoints of the metro area, perhaps even overly generous to the so-called conservatives. Remember, it's the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, not the Georgia Journal-Constitution. So why all the whining from right wingers?
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Old 03-27-2009, 08:18 AM
 
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Bob Barr is also a regular contributor to the AJC editorial page, so let's get the tally:

"Liberal": Bookman, Tucker, Lukovich, Sarvady

"Conservative": Wooten, Feldhahn, Barr

That's a very fair representation of the political veiwpoints of the metro area, perhaps even overly generous to the so-called conservatives. Remember, it's the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, not the Georgia Journal-Constitution. So why all the whining from right wingers?
Here's a possible answer. Tolerance and inclusiveness are liberal values. We are respectful of ambiguity and doubt, and generally believe we should strive to understand and see the good in the opposing point of view, even though we often fall short of this ideal.

In the view of many conservatives, everything described in the previous paragraph is not a virtue but a vice, and part and parcel of everything they believe is just plain Wrong with liberal thinking. The fact that liberals are willing to entertain conservative ideas to some extent they just take as proof that Truth is on their side. But they are completely hostile to liberal views because they are Right and liberal views are completely Wrong. In this way of thinking, any compromise is surrender, and just plain Wrong.

A liberal thinks the AJC is doing the right thing and trying to be fair by printing both Jay Bookman and Jim Wooten. A conservative thinks that naturally there's some house room given to Jim et al. because nobody could be so stupid as to completely believe in only liberal thinking. However, the presence of any liberal thinking at all means that the AJC is unacceptably in the wrong camp.
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Old 03-27-2009, 09:31 AM
 
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Here's a possible answer. Tolerance and inclusiveness are liberal values. We are respectful of ambiguity and doubt, and generally believe we should strive to understand and see the good in the opposing point of view, even though we often fall short of this ideal.

In the view of many conservatives, everything described in the previous paragraph is not a virtue but a vice, and part and parcel of everything they believe is just plain Wrong with liberal thinking. The fact that liberals are willing to entertain conservative ideas to some extent they just take as proof that Truth is on their side. But they are completely hostile to liberal views because they are Right and liberal views are completely Wrong. In this way of thinking, any compromise is surrender, and just plain Wrong.

A liberal thinks the AJC is doing the right thing and trying to be fair by printing both Jay Bookman and Jim Wooten. A conservative thinks that naturally there's some house room given to Jim et al. because nobody could be so stupid as to completely believe in only liberal thinking. However, the presence of any liberal thinking at all means that the AJC is unacceptably in the wrong camp.
You have got be kidding me, NO WAY you can be serious! Liberals are respectful and strive to understand the opposing view point?? So please explain the last 8 years and all the respect and understanding that Liberals gave to President Bush. Better yet how about Vice President Cheney!
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Old 03-27-2009, 09:40 AM
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You have got be kidding me, NO WAY you can be serious! Liberals are respectful and strive to understand the opposing view point?? So please explain the last 8 years and all the respect and understanding that Liberals gave to President Bush. Better yet how about Vice President Cheney!
It's well documented that "the liberal media" failed to do their duty as journalists by asking tough questions prior to the Iraq war.

Nieman Watchdog > Commentary > Missing before the war: Journalism 101 questions
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Old 03-27-2009, 09:45 AM
 
Location: East Cobb
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You have got be kidding me, NO WAY you can be serious! Liberals are respectful and strive to understand the opposing view point?? So please explain the last 8 years and all the respect and understanding that Liberals gave to President Bush. Better yet how about Vice President Cheney!
(a) What JPD said.
(b) I did write that we often fall short of the ideal.
(c) Vice President Cheney is to liberals as Cynthia McKinney is to conservatives. There are limits to what a reasonable person can entertain.
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