Northern Blacks and Southern Blacks? (Atlanta, Clarkston: neighborhood, public school, gated)

[vsmoove]

Originally Posted by aries4118

Too bad you're not Southern...

your confederate flag and republican party references are part of the "racial divide" that I mentioned earlier. Other than that, cultures are very similar, basically identical:

1. Food.
2. Accent/Dialect
3. Religion
4. Child-Rearing
5. Music Overlap/Origins
6. Common Colonial Ancestry/Legacy
7. History
8. Sense of Place
9. Values (Conservative)
5.

Common colonial ancestry? LOL... that's pretty funny but I'll leave that alone. Sorry but you can't just brush away a huge thing "racial divide" and then list a bunch of superficial things. You can't list religion and not mention that they don't worship together. You can't list child-rearing and not mention that they don't live together and their kids don't play together. You can't list values and not mention the huge divide in party affiliation. It's like saying but for religion, the Jews and Palestinians have a lot in common. It's true but so what? These are gross exaggerations of course but until the racial divide is addressed, those commonalities will mean very little IMO. But I do get the point that people from a common geography, regardless of color, have more in common than they would with outsiders. I find if very hard to relate to most Black southerners and I know the feeling is mutual.

[coolyfett]

Originally Posted by afonega1

Why is that northern blacks expect southern blacks to know everything and to be worldly,but many northern blacs from the city have never been outside of their city or even bourough.

First off I am southern, but does it affect my brain? Blacks leaving their city of origin was not my point bruh, what I am saying is not every black person likes to sit on the front porch and drink, not every black person wants to club every weekend, not every black person craves drama. Some of us....a lot of us are DIFFERENT. If you mention anything you are interested in bruh, I am going to at least listen to what you are saying, ask questions, then decide if I would be interested. I not going to shut down your activity or judge you for it. I am southern, but my PARENTS are not....that my have something to do with my open mindedness. I understand that everyone has their ruts and routines but understand that other people of your same race may not share those ruts and routines is all I am saying. Peace & love bruh.

[kayrob]

Originally Posted by vsmoove

Common colonial ancestry? LOL... that's pretty funny but I'll leave that alone. Sorry but you can't just brush away a huge thing "racial divide" and then list a bunch of superficial things. You can't list religion and not mention that they don't worship together. You can't list child-rearing and not mention that they don't live together and their kids don't play together. You can't list values and not mention the huge divide in party affiliation. It's like saying but for religion, the Jews and Palestinians have a lot in common. It's true but so what? These are gross exaggerations of course but until the racial divide is addressed, those commonalities will mean very little IMO. But I do get the point that people from a common geography, regardless of color, have more in common than they would with outsiders. I find if very hard to relate to most Black southerners and I know the feeling is mutual.

I have to agree in a lot of cases in my experience thus far. And I'm not some think I know it all Yankee either. Have you sometime detected a little bit of crabs in a barrel mentality?

[vsmoove]

Originally Posted by kayrob

I have to agree in a lot of cases in my experience thus far. And I'm not some think I know it all Yankee either. Have you sometime detected a little bit of crabs in a barrel mentality?

Kay, I'm not sure what it is... I sense a little bit of that. I also sense that Blacks in the south are very status-conscious... it's all about where you live, where you went to school, which fraternity/sorority you're in... etc. I suppose it makes sense from a historical perspective but it's just very different from what I'm used to. I've just found it very hard to clique with Southern Blacks and I'm sure 50% of it is my fault... it just so happens that my Black friends down here are not from the South... dunno if my experience is typical or not but it appears to be so among my circle.

[michaelcarter2008]

Very ggod points guys. I must start off by saying that I didnt mean any disrespect to anyone that is from the south. I am just suggesting that it is weird down here. I spent 5 yrs in the navy and most of my frinds were white or asian and some hispanic and the few blacks were from big cities none of them were from the deep south. Whats strange to me that it wasn't by choice i'm from baltimore growing up, I didn't know a single person that wasn't black, it was just that they were the people in the Navy who were trying to go out and see the city(party!) and not sit in the dorms and drink or play video games. iIdo think there is something going on here though because, Ive been sometimes stero typed as a uppity negro. Ive even heard someone say I look like some who was born with a silver spoon in mouth lol! If they only knew looks can be deceiving. either way thats still sad because i wouldn't judge anyone like that i accept ppl for who they are. I don't care what color creed or sexaul preference plan and simple. Did anyone see the movie I love you man? Well in that movie the guy doesn't have any friends so he has to hang wround his wife all the time I don't want to be that guy thats all i'm saying.

[afonega1]

Originally Posted by coolyfett

First off I am southern, but does it affect my brain? Blacks leaving their city of origin was not my point bruh, what I am saying is not every black person likes to sit on the front porch and drink, not every black person wants to club every weekend, not every black person craves drama. Some of us....a lot of us are DIFFERENT. If you mention anything you are interested in bruh, I am going to at least listen to what you are saying, ask questions, then decide if I would be interested. I not going to shut down your activity or judge you for it. I am southern, but my PARENTS are not....that my have something to do with my open mindedness. I understand that everyone has their ruts and routines but understand that other people of your same race may not share those ruts and routines is all I am saying. Peace & love bruh.

I was just making the point that there seems to be a double standards.Southerns both black and white are often vilified.Bot saying that sometimes its not warranted but its played up as if everyone down south is so bad when often the same is true in other places.A lot of southerners are stand-offiish due to constant negativity from people from the rest of the country.It gets old after being judged and lumped together like we all think the same.I cannot tell you how many times I have been up north and people act as if I am from Mars.I do not even have an accent!!That really confuses people when I tell them i'm born and raised in the south.

[michaelcarter2008]

Originally Posted by afonega1

I was just making the point that there seems to be a double standards.Southerns both black and white are often vilified.Bot saying that sometimes its not warranted but its played up as if everyone down south is so bad when often the same is true in other places.A lot of southerners are stand-offiish due to constant negativity from people from the rest of the country.It gets old after being judged and lumped together like we all think the same.I cannot tell you how many times I have been up north and people act as if I am from Mars.I do not even have an accent!!That really confuses people when I tell them i'm born and raised in the south.

Again i dont mean to offend anyone. you seem a bit ticked off by some ppls replies. I think the proof is in the puddin as they say. two years...two years and no freinds? that has to say something about u southerners. as far the accent etc. that never bothered me.

[US-Traveller]

Actually when you mention Republican Party as a difference between blacks and whites in the south is a little untrue. Georgia has among the highest percentage of African-Americans registered as Republicans, along with Utah, Alabama, and Kentucky. More African-Americans in the south have been registered with the Republican Party for a long time. Democrats refused to register African-Americans for the longest time in the south and many families have passed this down from generation-to-generation. A good example of a family like this would be Condoleeza Rice's family. If you were to exclude partisanship and look at ideology African-Americans are nearly eye-to-eye with White conservatives. There is generally some disagreement on economic and fiscal policy, but this is largely because of lack of education, which can cross racial lines.

[kayrob]

Originally Posted by US-Traveller

Actually when you mention Republican Party as a difference between blacks and whites in the south is a little untrue. Georgia has among the highest percentage of African-Americans registered as Republicans, along with Utah, Alabama, and Kentucky. More African-Americans in the south have been registered with the Republican Party for a long time. Democrats refused to register African-Americans for the longest time in the south and many families have passed this down from generation-to-generation. A good example of a family like this would be Condoleeza Rice's family. If you were to exclude partisanship and look at ideology African-Americans are nearly eye-to-eye with White conservatives. There is generally some disagreement on economic and fiscal policy, but this is largely because of lack of education, which can cross racial lines.

You're not speaking for this African-American neither socially or fiscally. I may be somewhat moderate but I'm hardly in lock-step with White Conservatives at all.

[lilmusket]

I think a better question would be Rural blacks and Urban blacks. Most blacks in the South tend to live in rural areas or smaller cities.. whereas the black population in the north is almost entirely urban and in very large cities. But I really don't see that much of a difference with urban black in Atlanta vs those in Washington, DC, Philly or New York.