Is Atlanta....'churchy'? (Boston, Tiger: authority, land, rated)

[staywarm2]

We live in the northern suburbs and no one has asked us about church.

[plessthanpointohfive]

Originally Posted by City Fanatic

The laws are based on Christian law. The founding documents spoke with reference to the Creator.

And this is where everyone realizes we're not talking to a rational person. End of my participation in the "discussion".

[neil0311]

Originally Posted by City Fanatic

Neil, it's friendly conversation.

And the time it happened, I chose to be friendly and ignore the question rather than be rude and start a discussion on why the question itself was in bad taste. Instead, I just changed the subject and moved on with the friendly conversation. It's only happened a couple of times and in the context of meeting my daughter's friends' parents. It wasn't a big deal and doesn't happen as often as I remember years ago.

[City Fanatic]

Originally Posted by plessthanpointohfive

And this is where everyone realizes we're not talking to a rational person. End of my participation in the "discussion".

That was very nice of you.

The fact of the matter is that you are ignorant of the fact that most of the founding fathers were indeed Christians, that their letters and documents spoke of the creator, etc.

Given that they spoke of the Creator, what Creator do you think that they were thinking about? What religion do you think that they were? Of course, it's the Christian God.

Now, given that it's the Christian God, and given that the founding documents, on which the laws of the land are established, mention the Creator, then it is easily seen that they are set with a Christian belief system behind them.

It appears that you are lacking logic. I despise the fact that you'd attack me and refer to me as irrational, when you yourself haven't chosen to prove why I'm incorrect. Like a typical leftist/liberal. I'm not saying that you are, but you obviously feel that your views are superior, but you haven't provided any basis to refute anything I've said. I realize that it's far easier to attack the messenger than to offer anything of substance.

[DeaconJ]

Originally Posted by City Fanatic

That was very nice of you.

The fact of the matter is that you are ignorant of the fact that most of the founding fathers were indeed Christians, that their letters and documents spoke of the creator, etc.

Given that they spoke of the Creator, what Creator do you think that they were thinking about? What religion do you think that they were? Of course, it's the Christian God.

Now, given that it's the Christian God, and given that the founding documents, on which the laws of the land are established, mention the Creator, then it is easily seen that they are set with a Christian belief system behind them.

It appears that you are lacking logic. I despise the fact that you'd attack me and refer to me as irrational, when you yourself haven't chosen to prove why I'm incorrect. Like a typical leftist/liberal. I'm not saying that you are, but you obviously feel that your views are superior, but you haven't provided any basis to refute anything I've said. I realize that it's far easier to attack the messenger than to offer anything of substance.

The founding fathers were indeed Christians...and indeed they were seeking relief from religious persecutuion in Europe, so that they would find the freedom to worship as they pleased. THAT is what our founding fathers based their belief system on - freedom. Christianity, at the time, was the overwhelming religion, but they didn't intend for it to be pushed on anyone.

300 years later, I would think most intelligent folks would realize this...it's not 1700 anymore. Realize that times and values have changed.

[techugagrad]

Originally Posted by plessthanpointohfive

Ya, and I guess the opinion of the Georgia people, who would like to be able to buy alcohol on Sundays, doesn't matter to the few religious people, including our Guvnah, who want to keep this law in place. There's no logical reason for this law. And, you could probably argue that since alcohol is a legal drug in this country there's no reason to ban the sale of it on any particular day.

And the waters get pretty muddy on the constitution issues when this law bans alcohol on a day only respected by Protestants. Catholics drink during Mass. Jews drink whenever they drink and their Sabbath is Saturday...so even if they had a ban on booze it wouldn't be Sunday. Muslims aren't suppose to drink at all, any day. You get the drift. What makes the Protestants so special they get to ban it for everyone else?

FYI, the state government isn't a democracy. I agree that a majority (in Atlanta) would vote for Sunday sales, but right now it is special interest vs. special interest and the Christians seem to have more weight than the Chamber of Commerce/Grocery Stores.

There is definitely a logical reason for this law -- to set aside a day of rest -- but you just disagree that the reason is important. Now, I think it is illogical to allow alcohol to be served in restaurants and arenas at the same time. I know people who have gone from restaurant to restaurant on Sunday afternoon until they were slobbering drunk and catatonic. There are two ways to fix that -- either allow all Sunday sales or ban the others, and I'd prefer the latter.

[RainyRainyDay]

Originally Posted by techugagrad

FYI, the state government isn't a democracy. I agree that a majority (in Atlanta) would vote for Sunday sales, but right now it is special interest vs. special interest and the Christians seem to have more weight than the Chamber of Commerce/Grocery Stores.

There is definitely a logical reason for this law -- to set aside a day of rest -- but you just disagree that the reason is important. Now, I think it is illogical to allow alcohol to be served in restaurants and arenas at the same time. I know people who have gone from restaurant to restaurant on Sunday afternoon until they were slobbering drunk and catatonic. There are two ways to fix that -- either allow all Sunday sales or ban the others, and I'd prefer the latter.

The blue law is not logical. Banning alcohol sales does not make Sunday a day of rest for anyone except liquor store employees! Truett Cathy knows what a day of rest for everyone looks like, but I don't see many Christians following his example. People who set foot in supermarkets, drugstores, malls or restaurants on Sundays have no moral authority on this topic, and they shouldn't be wasting their time bothering about such a small sliver of commerce as alcohol sales.

[City Fanatic]

Originally Posted by DeaconJ

300 years later, I would think most intelligent folks would realize this...it's not 1700 anymore. Realize that times and values have changed.

Back to the point: This is a STATE law. The U.S. government has no authority in this area, nor is it given by the U.S. Constitution. The Constitution does say that any area not stated as explicitely belonging to the federal government is the responsibility of the states. This is one of those areas.

State Law says that there will be not be non-restaurant alcoholic sales on Sunday.

Don't like the law, petition your state assemblymen and senators.

"Get with the times" is what you meant to say. This is the typical response of a Leftist who seeks to make the traditionalist feel out-of-touch, not with the times, in order to degrade the person, as well as the opinions and beliefs of the person who holds them. As if we're living in enlightening times. Don't make me laugh. On average, most people in modern times have no common sense because they've been dumb-downed by political correctness, Hollywood nonsense, and left-wing propaganda. People in the past were a bit more rational than your average MTV/E/Dancing with the Stars/Lost dolt these days.

[back2dc]

As to the original point of this thread: whether Atlanta was churchy or not: I can assure the OP that you won't find this topic in the NY, Chicago, DC, Boston, San Fran, and LA forums.

[cricketfan]

Tiger Beer, I notice you posted this same question word for word on other forums? What's your point? Are you doing some honest research on southern religiosity or are you just trying to stir up some controversy?

Let me reverse the question. Are YOU churchy?