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04-30-2009, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by coolyfett
Why would GSU students live in Clayton and now all of a sudden want out?
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When I read the OP I assumed the reason the family wants to get out of Clayton to have more to do with the fact they have 6 kids, presumably in the public schools there, and their desire is to flee a dysfunctional public school system which was the first school district in the nation, in the past 40 years, to lose accreditation.
Isn't that obvious to anyone who knows anything about what's going on with the Clayton Schools right now?
The fact both parents are GSU students has NOTHING to do with why they want to leave Clayton, but IS relevant in regards to where they might want to live once they leave Clayton - they will need to be close enough to allow the parents to continue making their commute to GSU to finish their educations.
I probably shouldn't have bothered respond to coolyfett, because his post smacked of racism right and left, but since it hasn't been said by others in this thread, and wasn't stated explicitedly by the OP... I wanted to insert that fact into this thread.
I think the OP & his/her family are fortunate to be a renters in Clayton County - they have the freedom to pick up stakes and move on outta there... who here wouldn't do the same if they were in the shoes of the OP ??
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04-30-2009, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by StPaulEastSider
When I read the OP I assumed the reason the family wants to get out of Clayton to have more to do with the fact they have 6 kids, presumably in the public schools there, and their desire is to flee a dysfunctional public school system which was the first school district in the nation, in the past 40 years, to lose accreditation.
Isn't that obvious to anyone who knows anything about what's going on with the Clayton Schools right now?
The fact both parents are GSU students has NOTHING to do with why they want to leave Clayton, but IS relevant in regards to where they might want to live once they leave Clayton - they will need to be close enough to allow the parents to continue making their commute to GSU to finish their educations.
I probably shouldn't have bothered respond to coolyfett, because his post smacked of racism right and left, but since it hasn't been said by others in this thread, and wasn't stated explicitedly by the OP... I wanted to insert that fact into this thread.
I think the OP & his/her family are fortunate to be a renters in Clayton County - they have the freedom to pick up stakes and move on outta there... who here wouldn't do the same if they were in the shoes of the OP ??
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If the media weren't so so diligently spreading awareness of every hangnail in Clayton County Schools, parents and students wouldn't even know about the accreditation problem. Loss of accreditation doesn't affect day to day school operations....nor did past day to day operations play any part in the system's loss of accreditation.
For this reason alone, I too am questioning the strong desire to vacate Clayton County that was expressed in the OP.
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05-01-2009, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by StPaulEastSider
I probably shouldn't have bothered respond to coolyfett, because his post smacked of racism right and left, but since it hasn't been said by others in this thread, and wasn't stated explicitedly by the OP... I wanted to insert that fact into this thread.
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I'm glad you did. I forgot that Clayton was the one with all of the problems and was wondering what the real motive was behind the OP's move.
OP are you looking for a place to raise your kids long-term or just something to get you out of Clayton now? If money is tight you might be able to squeeze everyone into a smaller home now and then move (hopefully to somewhere in the same school district) as the kids get older and need more space.
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05-01-2009, 08:52 PM
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The OP did some back, and expressed her dismay that when she asked for recommendations on finding a better area for her family, she received critical comments regarding the amount of children she chose to have. Her response is gone, as are many of the others.
Why are people so quick to judge on here?
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05-01-2009, 09:52 PM
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How's this for an idea?
If someone breaks the terms of service agreement, allow the moderators to deal with it. There is no need for other posters to make comments and remarks to the original poster as to their dislike of their topic/thread. If you don't like it, don't reply to it and move on to another thread.
Oh, and another thought...
Continued off-topic comments and snips towards posters will be considered personal attacks (a TOS violation) and accounts will be suspended for it. Filling up a thread with smart remarks isn't earning good points.
Case closed.
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05-02-2009, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by floyd242
Check around Peachtree Corners. There are some large houses (4brs for ~$1300/mo) and it's pretty diverse and Dunwoody schools are decent.
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What are you talking about?
First off all, you cannot find large 4 bedroom house in Peachtree Corners for 1300/month. Peachtree Corners is a pretty affluent area - go take a look at the avg. home price and household income of 30092.
Second off all, it is not really diverse. There are apartments along Peachtree Corners Circle and Holcomb Bridge that are mostly minorities, but overall the area is not what I would call "diverse."
Lastly, Peachtree Corners is not in Dunwoody. It is in Gwinnett County, and it has two elementary schools and one middle school, only one of which is good (Simpson Elementary - my alma mater). Dunwoody is Dekalb County - different schools.
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05-02-2009, 01:07 AM
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Loss of accreditation doesn't affect day to day school operations....
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Wow, always informed with completely and utterly wrong information.
Moderator removed. Don't insult, please.
losing accreditation is a big deal. Losing accreditation=losing state funding.
I would say that not having any funding from the state would have an affect on day-to-day operations, including barring graduates from getting the HOPE scholarship.
I personally am glad the media jumped on Clayton County. Most normal people think losing acreditation is a big deal, and it needed to be exposed.
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05-02-2009, 01:18 AM
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If the media weren't so so diligently spreading awareness of every hangnail in Clayton County Schools, parents and students wouldn't even know about the accreditation problem.
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Do we really want to live in a society where the media does not report legitimate news to the general public? Reporting the news is the media's JOB!
Clayton County was the first school district in the NATION to lose accreditation in FORTY YEARS... this is a BIG DEAL.
Oh, so your argument is that the problems were all contained in the school board and day-to-day operations were not affected? Just whose responsibility is it to appoint those who take care of day-to-day operations in Clayton County and every other school district in the nation? Oh, it's the school board's responsibility? Yeah, I think problems with the school board are sure to trickle down to the schools, and students, themselves... just give it time.
And I do not believe, not for a minute, that the schools were not negatively impacted by all that transpired... i cannot even IMAGINE what the morale in the Clayton County schools must have been like for the past year, or however long this has been going on.
DeaconJ, I suspect you must be a stakeholder in Clayton County who is trying to stem the tide. Sorry dude, but the cat is outta the bag and you can't get 'em back in - Clayton County Schools lost their accreditation, now they have regained it but are on 2 years of probation... it's going to take a good long while before the stigma of this whole affair has passed away... a GOOD long while.
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05-02-2009, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BringBackCobain
Wow, always informed with completely and utterly wrong information.
Moderator removed - orphaned part of quote. losing accreditation is a big deal. Losing accreditation=losing state funding.
I would say that not having any funding from the state would have an affect on day-to-day operations, including barring graduates from getting the HOPE scholarship.
I personally am glad the media jumped on Clayton County. Most normal people think losing acreditation is a big deal, and it needed to be exposed.
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I SAID: LOSS OF ACCREDITATION DOESN'T AFFECT THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS OF A SCHOOL. The schools did not yet lose state funding. Stop putting words in my mouth, please.
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05-02-2009, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by StPaulEastSider
Do we really want to live in a society where the media does not report legitimate news to the general public? Reporting the news is the media's JOB!
Clayton County was the first school district in the NATION to lose accreditation in FORTY YEARS... this is a BIG DEAL.
Oh, so your argument is that the problems were all contained in the school board and day-to-day operations were not affected? Just whose responsibility is it to appoint those who take care of day-to-day operations in Clayton County and every other school district in the nation? Oh, it's the school board's responsibility? Yeah, I think problems with the school board are sure to trickle down to the schools, and students, themselves... just give it time.
And I do not believe, not for a minute, that the schools were not negatively impacted by all that transpired... i cannot even IMAGINE what the morale in the Clayton County schools must have been like for the past year, or however long this has been going on.
DeaconJ, I suspect you must be a stakeholder in Clayton County who is trying to stem the tide. Sorry dude, but the cat is outta the bag and you can't get 'em back in - Clayton County Schools lost their accreditation, now they have regained it but are on 2 years of probation... it's going to take a good long while before the stigma of this whole affair has passed away... a GOOD long while.
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I could care less about Clayton County Schools...I just can't stand misinformation and overdramatic criticism of ANYTHING.
The loss of accreditation in Clayton County had nothing to do with the quality of daily education in the individual schools. It happened due to deficiencies of the school board. The day to day operations within each school continued as normal. I didn't say that the schools weren't negatively impacted...but the students and parents would be cushioned from that impact by the staff.
Teachers are very good at shutting out outside problems and concentrating very diligently on teaching the kids - I do it almost every day. I was saying that parents and students would never notice anything different about their local school and wouldn't even know about the accreditation loss if not for the media coverage.
Don't have cow. Why are you so upset about it?
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