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Old 06-07-2009, 09:12 AM
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I think that it's perfectly reasonable to want things family-oriented. People move to Atlanta because it offers nice houses for low-cost. If someone is single and looking for a real city, they'd be better off moving to NY, DC, SF, LA or Miami.

I concur...
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Old 06-07-2009, 09:16 AM
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what pisses me off is people who move to ATL metro who want everything "family oriented"... That is PATHETIC!!!! you can move to ANY medium sized city and experience the SAME lifestyle YET you are so F-ing DESPERATE you HAADDDD to move to the big city of Atlanta.... PATHETIC!!! You suburbanites are freakin pathetic.
I would normally tend to agree with you a little bit but WHOA (and also too, there are people who live in a suburb b/c they can't afford to live in the city like myself so if you want to attack me, go ahead)
And there are plenty of areas in Atlanta that aren't "family oriented". Little 5 for example? Noooot exactly what most people want for their kids.
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Old 06-07-2009, 09:36 AM
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If someone is single and looking for a real city, they'd be better off moving to NY, DC, SF, LA or Miami.
I wouldn't say the cities you mention are any more of a "real city" than Atlanta. They are just different (is LA really that much different?).

What I don't understand are the vitriolic comments by the previous poster (blondandfun) about people being "PATHECTIC...PATHECTIC...blah, blah, blah" if they prefer an area that is more sedate and suburban. That person is most likely younger, single, and has no children. It depends on your age and what stage of life you're in and I really don't get the rather selfish comments someone like that makes, but we see them time and again.

For some of us who are married and do have children, we're not looking for nightlife and excitment. We're looking for good schools, parks and places for our children to safely play, quiet and friendly neighbors, and other mundane... and yes....boring stuff. Why is that such a threat or so troubling for all you cool urban folks? I grew up in the city....lived in an urban setting for many years, had my fun as a younger person. Now I just want a quiet, safe...and yes...somewhat boring neighborhood with a nice house and friendly, boring neighbors who take their kids places and mow their lawn on a Saturday. Oh the humanity.

If I want excitment, clubs, ballgames, and all the trappings of urban life, it's a 20 min drive with no traffic.
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Old 06-07-2009, 09:51 AM
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You seriously don't think that NY, DC, Boston and SF are not moreso real cities than Atlanta?

Atlanta is great because it offers nice, inexpensive houses, a mild climate and nice rolling topography. Anyone who thinks it's a real city, however, is mistaken. Unlike NY, for example, it lacks world-class cultural institutions, historic architecture, etc. Consider cities like NY and London which are world financial capitals, media capitals, cultural capitals, the centers for high-end auctions at Christies, Sothebies, etc.


Atlanta has no streets that look like this:

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Old 06-07-2009, 10:03 AM
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Atlanta's layout fits it's climate perfectly - unrelenting uncomfortableness, with some short infrequent pockets of niceness every once in a while.

Oh, and as far as previous poster, you can find a cheaper home elsewhere in suburbs, YOU moved here because YOU are the selfish one. You people, not us young people, are the cause of this disastrous mess we're in, you selfish people want everything, and I am very very happy that your home prices have fallen and I pray they fall more.
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Old 06-07-2009, 10:07 AM
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You seriously don't think that NY, DC, Boston and SF are not moreso real cities than Atlanta?
I was born and raised in Brooklyn and Queens, NY and lived outside Boston for 15 years, so I'm very familiar with the attributes of northeastern cities. I guess it depends on your definition of a "real" city.

Is it lots of tall bldgs? Is it crowded subway trains? Lots of traffic? A ton of clubs and bars? Having the UN or the stock market?

No doubt NYC is a special and unique place. I agree Atlanta is not NYC, but that's why many people like Atlanta. Other than the celebrity and movie factor, I'm not sure how you can make the case that LA is all that different from Atlanta. What makes Miami so much more of a "real" city?

Having lived in NY and having been brought up in that kind of urban setting....high rise apartment living for my first 18 years, parents didn't own a car, walked to elementary school, took a public bus to JHS in Queens and the subway to my HS which was in Manhattan... My HS in NYC didn't even have a football team....no field for the soccer team we did have to practice on...just a different experience. I appreciate the difference in places like Atlanta.

Is a crowded city the measure of a "real" city? Who cares? If you choose to live in Atlanta or the suburbs surrounding Atlanta, you know what you're getting. If you want to move to NYC or other older and more urban cities, then that's fine too. I just don't get the need to run one lifestyle down as "inferior" and hold up the other as the pinnacle of human existence.

Crowded urban living is great when you're young and your life has different priorities.
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Old 06-07-2009, 10:18 AM
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I'm also a transplanted New Yorker and a former Londoner.

I didn't say that those cities provide better lifestyles than Atlanta though they're clearly better cities. If you want an affordable place to raise kids, Atlanta is arguably far superior to those places.

However, as I noted, those cities offer things that Atlanta does not and those cities have an urban feel. When one walks through historic areas of the Upper East side, Upper West Side, Soho, Tribeca, the Village, Wall Street, Brooklyn Heights, Park Slope, etc. you feel like you're in a real city. When one walks through Atlanta's streets, it feels like White Plains or Stamford.
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Old 06-07-2009, 10:27 AM
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I didn't say that those cities provide better lifestyles than Atlanta though they're clearly better cities. If you want an affordable place to raise kids, Atlanta is arguably far superior to those places.
We can agree...although your use of "better" states superiority. I would just say different and in some ways better but in others not. If the criteria are architecture and cultural sites...maybe. If the criteria are taxes, politics, and other quality of life intangibles, I would disagree with you.
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Old 06-07-2009, 10:47 AM
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Atlanta's layout fits it's climate perfectly - unrelenting uncomfortableness, with some short infrequent pockets of niceness every once in a while.

Oh, and as far as previous poster, you can find a cheaper home elsewhere in suburbs, YOU moved here because YOU are the selfish one. You people, not us young people, are the cause of this disastrous mess we're in, you selfish people want everything, and I am very very happy that your home prices have fallen and I pray they fall more.

What are you pissed off about that people living in the suburbs have ruined Atlanta? I'm young and I live in a home outside of Atlanta. Guess what I did yesterday, I planted flowers then went out to a bar. I'm not sure what the hostility is for or at.

But I think Atlanta would be perfect if people would just slow down and relax a little. One of my good friends moved down here from Canada about 10 years ago and he asked me one time, why are people always waving at me when I drive by? I said they are just saying hey. But now people would just rather walk over you then go 2 steps around you, or run you off the road instead of having to slow down 5 miles an hour. Besides that I like it though.
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Old 06-07-2009, 12:55 PM
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Atlanta's layout fits it's climate perfectly - unrelenting uncomfortableness, with some short infrequent pockets of niceness every once in a while.

Oh, and as far as previous poster, you can find a cheaper home elsewhere in suburbs, YOU moved here because YOU are the selfish one. You people, not us young people, are the cause of this disastrous mess we're in, you selfish people want everything, and I am very very happy that your home prices have fallen and I pray they fall more.

What is your deal exactly? If you don't like Atlanta, it's far tooo easy to just leave right? You act like Atlanta offered you a horrible life experience and if thats the case, you should have left a long time ago....this hostility is pretty unreal...lol
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