Segregation (Atlanta, Dunwoody, Buford: house prices, schools, incomes)

[brownhornet]

I think its safe to say this thread is a fail lol

[oldhousegirl]

Didn't read all of the posts. But I have not found the Atlanta area to be racially segregated compared to Chicago or even moderately racially segregated. Now as far as class, that's a different story.

Actually OP, all I see is black, white, hispanic, asian. Together, all day long, all of the time.

In my little neck of the woods in Fayette county, I have NEVER seen such integration, ever!! Nor have I seen such an integrated church as First Baptist Atlanta - Dr. Charles Stanley. Nor have I ever experienced anything other than Kumbaya from most races of people while living here! Seriously - I find it quite ironic that the South, of the "This is MY South TV campaigns", could be so "raceless". Gotta luv it.

[waronxmas]

Originally Posted by oldhousegirl

In my little neck of the woods in Fayette county, I have NEVER seen such integration, ever!! Nor have I seen such an integrated church as First Baptist Atlanta - Dr. Charles Stanley. Nor have I ever experienced anything other than Kumbaya from most races of people while living here! Seriously - I find it quite ironic that the South, of the "This is MY South TV campaigns", could be so "raceless". Gotta luv it.

Haven't ever heard that Atlanta isn't in Georgia? It's not a dig at rural Georgia (sometimes) but more so to mean that the culture of the Atlanta area is almost completely removed from that of the rest of Georgia.

[Shagbark Hickory]

Originally Posted by equinox63

I see... I didn't know. I live in south dekalb county and the school systems in this and fulton county just seems a little segregated along the north and south to me. Am I wrong in that perception?

When I was a kid in school, they had just started "bussing". I don't know what the proper term for that is but I know that that practice of bussing black students to other schools to fulfill some quota was universally disliked. There was a post on here about that recently. It may not have been in the georgia board. I can't remember where I saw it. The bottom line is segregated schools is not ideal and bussing people off to make schools seem less segregated was not a good solution either. Do you have a solution?

[ericsonga]

I know different people in many parts of Atlanta, and I have never seen any true 'segregation'. I have a cousin in Country Club of the South in Alpharetta, and while being a very expensive neighborhood, is quite diverse. As is Sugarloaf Country Club, and I have family in a neighborhood in Dunwoody (800k+) with quite a bit of diversity. My much more humble neighborhood in Gwinnett (250-400k) is very diverse. My immediate neighbors are Carribean, Cuban, White, Black, and an interacial family. I can't think of too many places that are truly segregated. My only thoughts would be extreme east Gwinnett, as in Dacula, Grayson, and the Cascade areas. However, I'm sure there are people of many different backgrounds there as well, just in smaller numbers.

Seeing as both Gwinnett and Cobb were around 90-95% white in 1990 I think we've come a long way!

[BringBackCobain]

Originally Posted by ericsonga

I know different people in many parts of Atlanta, and I have never seen any true 'segregation'. I have a cousin in Country Club of the South in Alpharetta, and while being a very expensive neighborhood, is quite diverse. As is Sugarloaf Country Club, and I have family in a neighborhood in Dunwoody (800k+) with quite a bit of diversity. My much more humble neighborhood in Gwinnett (250-400k) is very diverse. My immediate neighbors are Carribean, Cuban, White, Black, and an interacial family. I can't think of too many places that are truly segregated. My only thoughts would be extreme east Gwinnett, as in Dacula, Grayson, and the Cascade areas. However, I'm sure there are people of many different backgrounds there as well, just in smaller numbers.

Seeing as both Gwinnett and Cobb were around 90-95% white in 1990 I think we've come a long way!

Come a long way? Sounds like you get a lot satisfaction when the white percentage goes down. That is a racist comment. Why do you dislike it when counties have a large white percentage? What if I said "Atlanta has come a long way since it was 66% black in 1990."?

[Nasuba]

Originally Posted by waronxmas

Haven't ever heard that Atlanta isn't in Georgia? It's not a dig at rural Georgia (sometimes) but more so to mean that the culture of the Atlanta area is almost completely removed from that of the rest of Georgia.

Which is a very good thing IMO

Rural Georgia is a scary place

[equinox63]

Originally Posted by cityrover

So how do you expect them to live equally when they are from different walks of life?!!

i am segregated! I can't hang out with donald trump, bill gates or say..... that abramovich person! How dare they segregate my poor miserable self.


Yep

I mentioned to bob kovacs... not economically, but racially. I'm sure donald trump and bill gates have extremely wealthy black friends and associates as well. My question is (besides Cobb and Gwinett - who have more than proven their points) do equally classed whites and blacks live together in atlanta. It's just a question... I'm not passing any judgement on my part or anything...

[equinox63]

Originally Posted by BringBackCobain

Your questions would be better answered in a sociology class, not an online forum. Atlanta isnt racially segregated. End of story. Atlanta is segregated by income, not by race. Rich people don't like to live around poor people. Does common sense not answer this for you?

And why did you lump Dunwoody in with Buford Highway? These are two COMPLETELY different areas. Please, if you are going to act as an authority on the supposed "segregation" of Atlanta, know what you are talking about.

But they do. Rich or more affluent people DO live around poorer less affluent people. Look at Old Fourth Ward, East Atlanta, Edgewood, Kirkwood, Grant Park, etc.

I have friends that live in Dunwoody and their house is directly off Buford Highway. Less than 1 mile. I'm not an authority, I'm just asking the questions.

The April 2008 issue of Atlanta Magazine says that many portions of Atlanta are just as segregated as they were when Dr. King was alive.

And why hasn't anyone explained the fulton and dekalb school scenario i mentioned...

[equinox63]

Originally Posted by runningncircles1

If I can find the article, I'll post it. But, it basically states that Atlanta, back in the days, was segregated on racial lines and was in the top quarter of cities for it. No surprise there. However, as the years passed, especially the 90s with the Olympics, the Atlanta metro pulled a 180 virtually overnight. And, living here all my life and remembering since 92, I DEFINITELY agree. Living in Cobb then, it was lily white almost. Like 84% white. Even in southwest Cobb. Not racist, but white, middle to upper-middle class. Gwinnett was rural for the most part back in those days and was also lily white. When the Olympics came, everything changed. For one, all of those Techwood homes god torn down; when that happened, the former residents(many of whom were black and Hispanic) were given HUD vouchers and relocated to the suburbs. It changed many neighborhoods and schools. Then, you had internationals look at Atlanta in a new light after many had never heard of it. Some flocked to this burgeoning city. All the construction and everything boosted our economy and caused growth. Also, the affordable housing attracted minorities from other cities who may have had lower pay and not been able to afford a house in their old cities. That one event transformed the metro a lot more than people give it credit for.

I feel you and am aware of all this... and it all makes sense. I guess I was wrong in putting Cobb and Gwinnett into the equation. But you don't feel that there is racial disparity between North Dekalb and South Dekalb, and North Fulton and South Fulton, especially regarding public schools?