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08-24-2009, 11:51 AM
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Making a big deal over a six-year old getting suspended for sexual battery? I can certainly see a keep-your-hands-to-yourself rule. But sexual battery? I'd be livid.
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08-24-2009, 11:58 AM
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Upsetmama,
I think it's time for you to visit the school and somehow cause a mild uproar. Someone mentioned the media, sure why not, go for it. As a teacher, it is small things like this incident that make me furious. It's ridiculous how the good student gets in trouble, and the trouble maker, who was basically prohibiting your child from leaving the room, gets off free.
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08-24-2009, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gymbuff
Upsetmama,
I think it's time for you to visit the school and somehow cause a mild uproar. Someone mentioned the media, sure why not, go for it. As a teacher, it is small things like this incident that make me furious. It's ridiculous how the good student gets in trouble, and the trouble maker, who was basically prohibiting your child from leaving the room, gets off free.
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Hey, that's a great point. Sounds like that other kid was being a bully! Then what, tattled because your son touched him? (And probably exaggerated it.) I agree with gymbuff. Make a fuss and demand to know how the other child was punished for his bullying.
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08-24-2009, 12:12 PM
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If this is going on any kind of permanent record, I agree with those who said you must get a lawyer. Sometimes, just threatening works wonders.
As part of his IEP report in elementary school, my son had a psychological profile done. The school psychologist noted that he seemed fascinated by fire, and she was "concerned". Reading it, I had visions of his being hauled in any time some idiot lit a match in the boys room. I knew he wanted to be a fireman, and that was the extent of his fascination.
I wanted the report changed, got nowhere with the psychologist or the child study team, until I threatened legal action. I never had to follow through though.
I shake my head at the teacher's response to this the most. How could a first grade teacher, knowing little kids (especially boys) react physically until they develop more mature verbal skills, make this into an issue for sexual battery? I wouldn't want my child in that class.
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08-24-2009, 12:13 PM
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Zero tolerance is zero tolerance. Common sense flew out the window.
Apparently some school administrators forgot what it was like to be a student in grade school.
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08-24-2009, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by frances125
Get an attorney - I know of a good one if you'd like to PM me. In the meantime, drop into central office and lodge a formal complaint to start the grievance process. They should have a simple form to fill out, and most likely, you have to go through the internal grievance process before you can sue.
Allege defamation and racial discrimination for starters but be fairly general in your statement of facts until you talk to your attorney. At the same time file an Georgia Open Records Act request (you can find a form letter to give you the language to use if you "Google Georgia Open Records Act") for documentation (they will have to redact personal information) on all disciplinary actions for sexual battery in grades K-5 with the race and gender of the student punished in each incident included as well as the punishment doled out. That should get some things moving.
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That's just what we need is more people suing for racial discrimination when it likely has nothing to do with the case. All of these lawsuits is one reason these stupid rules exist in the first place.
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08-24-2009, 12:21 PM
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That's an interesting opinion. You think that people who send their kids to public schools don't love their children as much as you do? So a mother and father who need to work full time... when do they do this homeschooling? In the evenings?
No thanks. The OP didn't ask for preaching or for anything else other than support for something that seems utterly ridiculous.
Don't drop this, Mama! Maybe a kind-hearted attorney will do a little pro bono work for you.
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I have no problem with your questions. To the first my answer is no. Sending your kids away to the government when they do things like this all the time is paramount to abuse on your part.
To the second question I reply that you dug your own hole and now your children are suffering because of it.
To question number 3. The evenings can certainly be used to educate if you want to.
It's funny, but none of the suggestions before mine will solve this lady's problem. You can't fight big brother when he has all the cards. The only solution to her problem is to remove her kids from that school. Fighting the principal and the teachers will only bring retribution upon you and your children.
The OP has a problem. She sounds intelligent enough to school her own kids. Why not? It's really easy, and if she doesn't feel able, private schools take kids every day from parents who don't want their kids thrown in with bad kids and bad teachers.
I'm just saying that you can say no to the state-run school monopoly if you want to make sure this never happens again.
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08-24-2009, 12:24 PM
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When I reviewed one of metro-Atlanta's county disicpline reports 2 years ago I was shocked to see sexual misconduct stats for K-5. After talking to a a couple parents I came to the conclusion that GA Pre K and GA elementary is not for my son, regardless of the school cluster/district. These idiots are more (thank-you Sonny Perdue) interested in if your 6 six year old can sit silent without moving for 30 mins, than teaching. Case in point: When my son was 3 I put him in Today's Kid's in Grayson. i was told that he was hitting/bothering other kids during lunch time. Since that was not his personality, I inquired further only to find out (after thoughtful questioning) that when he sat down he would move he's tray around and it would bump other kids trays. BTW, Today's Kid's in Grayson was under GA pre-K. Further, I was told that my three year old was also bothering kids during nap time. I would to say this was race related except this idiot at Today's Kid's was black and dumb. (My son is black). Bascially, during nap time my son wasn't tired/sleepy so he would move or toss around while laying down. The other kids were sleep. This caused a disturbance. I was then asked if could I wake him up earlier in the morning so he would be tired by noon and fall asleep. And this female dog (if you know what I mean) said this with a straight face. I replied that if he is not tired, why not try reading a book to him. Besides, I was paying these idiots. Needless to say I removed him and placed him in Private school. Dumb country- Bible thumping hick hypocrites.
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08-24-2009, 12:25 PM
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Cool... maybe we can get you to teach them - you seem great.
BTW, I think my bullying, drug addicted, pervert, weirdo children are wonderful.
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Of course you do. That's why we homeschool.
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08-24-2009, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Peru
I have no problem with your questions. To the first my answer is no. Sending your kids away to the government when they do things like this all the time is paramount to abuse on your part.
To the second question I reply that you dug your own hole and now your children are suffering because of it.
To question number 3. The evenings can certainly be used to educate if you want to.
It's funny, but none of the suggestions before mine will solve this lady's problem. You can't fight big brother when he has all the cards. The only solution to her problem is to remove her kids from that school. Fighting the principal and the teachers will only bring retribution upon you and your children.
The OP has a problem. She sounds intelligent enough to school her own kids. Why not? It's really easy, and if she doesn't feel able, private schools take kids every day from parents who don't want their kids thrown in with bad kids and bad teachers.
I'm just saying that you can say no to the state-run school monopoly if you want to make sure this never happens again.
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Question #1: That's just plain ridiculous to say.
Question #2: What hole? I'm one of those "abusers" who thinks that the majority of issues that kids go through are important to their education. They learn valuable coping skills. You've got to learn to get along with others.
Private school is not always an option and is not "really easy" for lots of parents. It's expensive. Incidentally, cost is NOT my reason for choosing public over private school.
Finally, your last point. You are not "just saying" that you can say no... you are suggesting that people who send their kids to public school do not love their children and are child abusers.
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