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Old 09-07-2009, 07:38 AM
 
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Our Cobb county school is not showing it and honestly I wasn't surprised. Although I was not an Obama supporter in the election and I would not vote for him to have a second term I am disappointed in the school's choice not to show the speech. He is our President and if he should want to address the students of this nation he should be able.
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA (Dunwoody)
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The kids will leave at 18, move to the West Coast, and you'll be lucky to see them once a year until you get old and they stick you in a home with some Barry Manilow records because there's no way they're going to let you live in their basement and rant about "that black guy they once elected as president".
God what a visual. Does it just have to be Barry Manilow?
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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Since most Atlanta metro parents seem to have forgotten what being a teen is about, I'll remind them as well (though the forgetfulness isn't contained just to Atlanta): If you tell your kids they "can't" do something or can't watch something, what do you think they're going to do? WATCH IT! So, you pull your kids out of school, and what do you think they're going to do... not watch it later on the web because you say so? C'mon. They'll log on via the spiffy laptop you got them while in their room, or even on their cell phone, and watch it.
Great post Greg. I think many parents have forgotten what it means to be a parent. You can discuss something with your children and explain your beliefs or values without hiding the kids or overprotecting them. Most kids see and hear things in school, on the web, and in society. The difference is whether or not they understand and have discussed those things with their parents or just their peers. I'm very far from being a perfect parent, but I try to have those kinds of discussions when I can.
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Old 09-07-2009, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA (Dunwoody)
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You can discuss something with your children and explain your beliefs or values without hiding the kids or overprotecting them.
Precisely. My son is only five, but when he asked if John McCain was a bad man I told him no. I told him that McCain was a patriotic American who had fought for our country, and served for many years in the Senate. I said that we simply disagreed with some of his views and liked Obama's views better. Then I told him in very simple terms some of the things each one was for. I think it's a good idea to expose your kids to opposing viewpoints, then explain to them why you think the way you do. How else are you going to teach them critical thinking skills? Kids are the best B.S. detectors in the world, and when you engage in hyperbole they stop believing anything you say.
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:42 PM
 
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Here is the speech;
Media Resources Prepared School Remarks

So much fuss, for what?
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Here is the speech;
Media Resources Prepared School Remarks

So much fuss, for what?
AM radio ratings, it would appear Mattie.

This whole circus has been absolutely sickening to witness.
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Atlanta native 40 years too long
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I read the speech and it is not political. It is very inspiring. Another example why I hate delusional republicans.
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:38 PM
 
Location: East Cobb
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Precisely. My son is only five, but when he asked if John McCain was a bad man I told him no. I told him that McCain was a patriotic American who had fought for our country, and served for many years in the Senate. I said that we simply disagreed with some of his views and liked Obama's views better. Then I told him in very simple terms some of the things each one was for. I think it's a good idea to expose your kids to opposing viewpoints, then explain to them why you think the way you do. How else are you going to teach them critical thinking skills? Kids are the best B.S. detectors in the world, and when you engage in hyperbole they stop believing anything you say.
Roslyn, I'm completely in agreement with your approach. Good job! What's driving me bonkers about the current political polarization in this country is that apparently so many Republican supporters don't have a similarly reasonable view, from the other side. Like a fellow at work with whom I'm periodically drawn into debate although I keep vowing "never again" ... until he draws me in again. Anyway, my colleague, Mr. X, is the nicest guy in the world and an admirable colleague and family man. But he ardently believes Obama is a "Chicago thug" who got himself elected for the express purpose of lining the pockets of his criminal associates, and whose "socialist" program is the wicked antithesis of everything good in this country. I just can't make any headway against this stuff. But it seems to me the country is in a sorry state when a chunk of the population believes the president is actually evil.
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:54 PM
 
Location: West Cobb County, GA (Atlanta metro)
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But it seems to me the country is in a sorry state when a chunk of the population believes the president is actually evil.
No, it just proves that "a chunk of the population" isn't capable of having normal debates and discussions, and that they feel that waving signs, screaming, buying up guns and ammo, and pulling their kids out of schools actually looks like an intelligent way to argue points. And yes, it's incredibly sad - but this whole thing IS enlightening, because it makes us realize just who some of our neighbors really are (and it's scary), because I think we had reached a point in 2009 where most of us thought we were living in a somewhat evolved and enlightened Western society. Now we know we're not, so we can adjust accordingly and get ready for the militias to start at any time. I'm glad I like maple syrup - Canada's startin' to look awfully warm, now.
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Old 09-07-2009, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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No, it just proves that "a chunk of the population" isn't capable of having normal debates and discussions, and that they feel that waving signs, screaming, buying up guns and ammo, and pulling their kids out of schools actually looks like an intelligent way to argue points. And yes, it's incredibly sad - but this whole thing IS enlightening, because it makes us realize just who some of our neighbors really are (and it's scary), because I think we had reached a point in 2009 where most of us thought we were living in a somewhat evolved and enlightened Western society. Now we know we're not, so we can adjust accordingly and get ready for the militias to start at any time. I'm glad I like maple syrup - Canada's startin' to look awfully warm, now.
To be fair though Greg, there are/were just as many looneys when Bush was President saying just as much looney stuff, and many haven't stopped even after he's gone. I guess it depends whether it's the looneys you agree with doing the shouting that defines your outlook. When I lived in MA, I had plenty of "neighbors" who were on the oppsite end of the spectrum from the people you describe, so it's all relative.

I think there are plenty of fair minded people willing to have a dialogue on many issues. I just wish we had more people who understood the real depth of the various issues, rather than relying on soundbites and rhetoric to form their views. Too many people today just don't understand the facts of many of the current debates, and they substitute hearsay and FUD for facts.
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