Is Atlanta more "Southern" than Northern Virginia? (Peachtree City: live, restaurants)

[thedudewiththeplan]

NOVA is much more like the north. Large Catholic Population like most of the northeast as opposed to Southern Baptist. Everyone calls sodas Coke in the Atlanta area as opposed to soft drinks and sodas being the more common word in NOVA. Counties like Coweta, Forsyth, and Fayette are very Republican leaning as opposed to Fairfax and Prince William County VA. As for sweet tea, in NOVA they may have a few places with sweet tea, but it is not like metro Atlanta where some restaurants you can't even FIND unsweet! Oh, and "Gone with the Winds" Tara was based off of Jonesboro GA in metro Atlanta and the writer lived in Fayetteville.

[DeaconJ]

Originally Posted by thedudewiththeplan

NOVA is much more like the north. Large Catholic Population like most of the northeast as opposed to Southern Baptist. Everyone calls sodas Coke in the Atlanta area as opposed to soft drinks and sodas being the more common word in NOVA. Counties like Coweta, Forsyth, and Fayette are very Republican leaning as opposed to Fairfax and Prince William County VA. As for sweet tea, in NOVA they may have a few places with sweet tea, but it is not like metro Atlanta where some restaurants you can't even FIND unsweet! Oh, and "Gone with the Winds" Tara was based off of Jonesboro GA in metro Atlanta and the writer lived in Fayetteville.

It seems to me that the smartest name for a soft drink, soda, pop, or whatever is the actual name. If I'm drinking Dr. Pepper, it's called Dr. Pepper. If I'm drinking Diet Coke, it's called Diet Coke. Most people I know do the same - I never hear anyone call them all "Coke". I'm curious...what would you get in a restaurant if you ordered a soda...or a "soft drink"? I assume you would get a strange look and the question, "What kind?"

I've never been to a restaurant that doesn't serve unsweetened tea. That's crazy.

Margaret Mitchell was born, raised, lived, and died in Atlanta - not Jonesboro. Jonesboro was near where the fictional "Tara" was located...in the novel the O'Haras lived in Clayton County, near Jonesboro.

The Archdiocese of Atlanta has over 650,000 members, most of them living in the Metro Atlanta area...so it's not a small contingent. The D.C. metro area has 575,000 Catholics - and not all of them in Northern Virginia. It sounds as if the two areas are very similar when it comes to the percentage of Catholic residents.

[back2dc]

Originally Posted by DeaconJ

It seems to me that the smartest name for a soft drink, soda, pop, or whatever is the actual name. If I'm drinking Dr. Pepper, it's called Dr. Pepper. If I'm drinking Diet Coke, it's called Diet Coke. Most people I know do the same - I never hear anyone call them all "Coke". I'm curious...what would you get in a restaurant if you ordered a soda...or a "soft drink"? I assume you would get a strange look and the question, "What kind?"

I've never been to a restaurant that doesn't serve unsweetened tea. That's crazy.

Margaret Mitchell was born, raised, lived, and died in Atlanta - not Jonesboro. Jonesboro was near where the fictional "Tara" was located...in the novel the O'Haras lived in Clayton County, near Jonesboro.

The Archdiocese of Atlanta has over 650,000 members, most of them living in the Metro Atlanta area...so it's not a small contingent. The D.C. metro area has 575,000 Catholics - and not all of them in Northern Virginia. It sounds as if the two areas are very similar when it comes to the percentage of Catholic residents.

Actually there are 3 archdioceses in the DC area: the archdiocese of Arlington covers Northern Virginia. The archdiocese of Washington covers DC and the immediate Maryland suburbs and the archdiocese of Baltimore covers Baltimore and the Maryland suburbs to the north and east.

[DeaconJ]

Originally Posted by back2dc

Actually there are 3 archdioceses in the DC area: the archdiocese of Arlington covers Northern Virginia. The archdiocese of Washington covers DC and the immediate Maryland suburbs and the archdiocese of Baltimore covers Baltimore and the Maryland suburbs to the north and east.

That wasn't a stat for any Archdiocese. It was a stat for Metro D.C.

The Atlanta number was for the Archdiocese...which covers Metro Atlanta and North Georgia.

[thedudewiththeplan]

http://www.valpo.edu/geomet/pics/geo...n/catholic.gif

http://www.valpo.edu/geomet/pics/geo...on/baptist.gif

http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~cook/movabletype/archives/church_bodies.gif

This map shows the religious areas by county. As you can see, NOVA has a higher % of Catholics than the Atlanta area.

http://tastyresearch.files.wordpress...pvssodamap.png

As for the Coke vs. Soda thing, I agree with you Deacon, I would love for them to call the drinks by their names, but I can think of many times when I was a server when people would ask me for a Coke, I would bring them a Coke, and they would tell me they wanted a Dr. Pepper and that I should have known that is what they meant! Confused the crap out of me!

As for the sweet tea thing, I worked at a Fuddruckers in Peachtree City where they did not have unsweet tea (just sweet). Several other restaurants as well where I experienced this.

Margret Mitchell was from Atlanta, but she lived in Fayetteville for a while (there are even place markers there about it on Glynn Street). And the O'Hara thing in Jonesboro is what I meant when I was talking about the whole Tara thing.

[DeaconJ]

Originally Posted by thedudewiththeplan

http://www.valpo.edu/geomet/pics/geo...n/catholic.gif

http://www.valpo.edu/geomet/pics/geo...on/baptist.gif

http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~cook/movabletype/archives/church_bodies.gif

This map shows the religious areas by county. As you can see, NOVA has a higher % of Catholics than the Atlanta area.

http://tastyresearch.files.wordpress...pvssodamap.png

As for the Coke vs. Soda thing, I agree with you Deacon, I would love for them to call the drinks by their names, but I can think of many times when I was a server when people would ask me for a Coke, I would bring them a Coke, and they would tell me they wanted a Dr. Pepper and that I should have known that is what they meant! Confused the crap out of me!

As for the sweet tea thing, I worked at a Fuddruckers in Peachtree City where they did not have unsweet tea (just sweet). Several other restaurants as well where I experienced this.

Margret Mitchell was from Atlanta, but she lived in Fayetteville for a while (there are even place markers there about it on Glynn Street). And the O'Hara thing in Jonesboro is what I meant when I was talking about the whole Tara thing.

Yes, Northern Virginia is slightly more Catholic than Atlanta...but not enough to make some kind of big difference. The numbers aren't very far apart. Your links are from 9 years ago...let's get some updated information if you're trying to prove some point.

You must have waited on some stupid people...why would anyone order Coke and expect something else? That just doesn't make sense, much like the rest of what you posted.

Fuddruckers is a national chain...are you telling me that they offer ONLY sweetened tea everywhere? They don't have a uniform menu at all of their locations? That's just not true...and I've eaten at restaurants all over Atlanta for 18 years - I've never been to a restaurant that didn't at least offer both. Try again.

Margaret Mitchell never lived in Jonesboro, unless her biography is incorrect. The only time she lived outside of Atlanta was to attend Smith College in Massachusetts. Jonesboro is never mentioned - not once. She lived in the Crescent Apartments for part of her adult life and worked for the Atlanta Journal.

If you're make such claims, please at least look into the validity beforehand.

[thedudewiththeplan]

I NEVER said Margeret Mitchell lived in Jonesboro, I said she was in Fayetteville for a while (there is a place marker there if you want to go down and see for yourself). As for Fuddruckers only having sweet tea, yes it is a national chain, but different stores are under different management so some food items are slightly different (they don't have the Southwest Style burger at the Columbia SC location for example.) I personally made the tea at the Fuddruckers I worked at in Peachtree City so I do know first hand that we did not have an un-sweeted version out in the lobby (unless a customer personally asked for one to be made in the back).

[DeaconJ]

Originally Posted by thedudewiththeplan

I NEVER said Margeret Mitchell lived in Jonesboro, I said she was in Fayetteville for a while (there is a place marker there if you want to go down and see for yourself). As for Fuddruckers only having sweet tea, yes it is a national chain, but different stores are under different management so some food items are slightly different (they don't have the Southwest Style burger at the Columbia SC location for example.) I personally made the tea at the Fuddruckers I worked at in Peachtree City so I do know first hand that we did not have an un-sweeted version out in the lobby (unless a customer personally asked for one to be made in the back).

So Fuddruckers offers unsweetened tea...I know they do, I've gotten it there before. Every restaurant offers sweet or unsweet. It's a basic menu option. It's not important, but when someone keeps on and on with false statements it just gets more ridiculous.

Margaret Mitchell did not live in Fayetteville - she lived in Atlanta her entire life except for her college years. I guess next we are going to be reading about how you knew her personally...

You can keep saying these things but it won't make them true. Sorry.

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by DeaconJ

So Fuddruckers offers unsweetened tea...I know they do, I've gotten it there before. Every restaurant offers sweet or unsweet. It's a basic menu option. It's not important, but when someone keeps on and on with false statements it just gets more ridiculous.

Margaret Mitchell did not live in Fayetteville - she lived in Atlanta her entire life except for her college years. I guess next we are going to be reading about how you knew her personally...

You can keep saying these things but it won't make them true. Sorry.

OK...

Some of Margaret Mitchell's family and ancestors are from Fayette County and the Fayetteville area (great-grandfather/grandmother, etc)...she went down there and spent time there on family land/farms (especially during her childhood and while researching)...which was a lot the inspiration for Gone With the Wind.

Plus, if y'all read the book...Scarlett studied for a bit at the Fayetteville Female "School" or something like that...which is based on the real Fayetteville Academy.


Read and Learn:

http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/n....jsp?id=h-3072

http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/n....jsp?id=m-9272


dah, DAAAAAH, dah-daaaaaaaaah----(Gone With the Wind Theme Song)

[DeaconJ]

Originally Posted by aries4118

OK...

Some of Margaret Mitchell's family and ancestors are from Fayette County and the Fayetteville area (great-grandfather/grandmother, etc)...she went down there and spent time there on family land/farms (especially during her childhood and while researching)...which was a lot the inspiration for Gone With the Wind.

Plus, if y'all read the book...Scarlett studied for a bit at the Fayetteville Female "School" or something like that...which is based on the real Fayetteville Academy.


Read and Learn:

New Georgia Encyclopedia: Fayetteville

Students of the Fayetteville Academy in Fayette County gather before the school in the mid-1880s. The school, which served as the model for Margaret Mitchell's fictional Fayetteville Female Academy in Gone With the Wind, was housed in the Holliday-Do


dah, DAAAAAH, dah-daaaaaaaaah----(Gone With the Wind Theme Song)

I've read both her novel and her biography...'spending time on the farm' isn't living there, like our resident expert has stated (among other things).

I don't doubt that Fayetteville is mentioned in GWTW...they lived in Clayton County and mentioned Jonesboro a few times. Did Fuddruckers only serve sweet tea back then? I might believe that one....