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Old 01-11-2010, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Amen, afonega.
Thanks.I should have proof read my responses more.I apologize to all for all the mistakes.I get tired due to illness sometimes and my concentration on the details is lacking.
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Old 01-11-2010, 03:35 PM
 
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Well why would you use the name of drug addict that committed suicide and left his drug addicted wife with their infant child behind?All rap and hip hop is not the same.You know that.Yet you CHOOSE to a ignore that their is a difference between Common,Kanye West,Lil Brother,or Goodie Mob vs 50 cent,Eimenem,The Game,lil Wayne,etc.?Not to mention that white people listen to more rap than blacks by far.
Hip hop is not the only genre of black music.R&B is not rap.Jazz is not rap.So although it is black,for you or anyone else to suggest that it s all the same is just trying to propagate their own prejudices by bring up the worst at the end of the spectrum.

You keep talking about agenda.I know I am not the only one who finds this very strange.What is the black agenda?And why would anyone brag about communities that are only now becoming some what recognizable in a city that has roots that are stronger and deeper in the black community?I do agree that the city becoming more diverse is a good thing,however for someone coming from cities like London,Toronto,NYC,LA,San Fran.,etc;why would they come to look for the same in Atlanta?More than likely they will just EXPECT it.What they would not expect is being a major center of black and urban entertainment that appeals to all races.



Oh really?Perhaps we should end the sale of cigarettes?Stop collecting all that tax money?Oh an what about stirp clubs?Those liquor license sure do generate a lot of revenue.

Sounds to me that YOU find commonality in linking all things negative about the black community but truthfully I don't think you have an understanding of the fabric and history of why exactly Atlanta is looked upon as some center of black culture mores so than other groups lot of negativity toward the black community because as much we have problems we have shown the world (as well as people of African descent).By your thinking I could conclude that Atlanta(or Ameridca)is a place of extreme racism,hate and bigotry based on its history and current policies.I don't.
I know all rap is not the same, but the majority of it is garbage. Also, I listened to rap all through high school and college at parties. I know the difference, but it seems that whenever I heard Atlanta in a song, it was not in some pop-ish rihanna song, but from a "gangsta" rapper like T.I. or Ludacris.

Are you saying Atlanta being mentioned in this song by T.I. is good for the city?:

"All the fame that a nigg* can gain from atlanta
Now I'm just tryin to maintain for atlanta
Befo nigg*z would say in atlanta
I was rhode park, doug high stayed in atlanta
Now true enough I sold yay in atlanta"

You missed my point about jazz and r&b. I know they are not the same, but my point was that if people are going to highlight black culture in the city, then they should highlight the city's jazz and r&b, not its thuggish hiphop connections.

Although you never do it, a black agenda is pushed by some members. it may be hard to explain. Its noticeable when people talk about the culture of atlanta, but only mention the black cultural contributions. When they talk about musical entertainment, always rap (this is where i say they should push jazz or r&B), but never the city's jam band scene. With food, always Sweet Auburn Curb Market, never the Vietnamese bakery on Buford hwy. Its like they dont want to share space with anyone else. This thread is a great example. Just take a look at the previous posts. My orinignal one was the first one to mention unique cultural sites that dont fit into the black agenda.

If Atlanta is to be viewed as an equal to LA, NYC etc., people need to celebrate its multiculturalism, not the bi-culturalism of the city's past (just blacks and whites). Just focusing on one sub-group is unfair to the many types of people who now call the city home. If people want to celebrate specific minority cultures in the city, thats a great thing, but they shouldnt exclude the other large minority groups when talking about the general culture of the city.
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Old 01-11-2010, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Originally from Cali relocated to Inman Park/Old 4th Ward/Westside Atlanta
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Lightbulb Reminder Cobain...

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Hey all,

General Profiles:

Age: 25 (So no kid parties)
Music: RnB - Hip Hop
Preferences: Clubs, Comedy Shows, Jazzy type lounges
But I thought that this is what the OP was looking for in his intial post? I think the posters guided him to that direction. Simple as that.

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Old 01-11-2010, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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This is what the OP was looking for and the posters guided him to that direction. Simple as that.
Human conversation ebbs and flows. That was true before computers, and it will probably continue to be true long after City-Data is gone. Deal with it.

I think many of the side-notes which are brought up in these threads are quite informative. Rather than a strict Q&A format, forums like these give us a chance to learn something about the city and the metro, and also about its history and the people who live in it.

Were it not for the meanderings, I suspect we'd see little more than school and subdivisions listings in response to questions. Oh, and "get a job first before moving here"...
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Old 01-11-2010, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Riverside, CA
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I think that I might have started a lot of this. I asked the OP why they choose Atlanta to visit as opposed to other cities like New York, San Francisco, LA or Chicago. Just an innocent question out of curiousity.
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Old 01-11-2010, 04:49 PM
 
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I know all rap is not the same, but the majority of it is garbage. Also, I listened to rap all through high school and college at parties. I know the difference, but it seems that whenever I heard Atlanta in a song, it was not in some pop-ish rihanna song, but from a "gangsta" rapper like T.I. or Ludacris.

Are you saying Atlanta being mentioned in this song by T.I. is good for the city?:

"All the fame that a nigg* can gain from atlanta
Now I'm just tryin to maintain for atlanta
Befo nigg*z would say in atlanta
I was rhode park, doug high stayed in atlanta
Now true enough I sold yay in atlanta"

You missed my point about jazz and r&b. I know they are not the same, but my point was that if people are going to highlight black culture in the city, then they should highlight the city's jazz and r&b, not its thuggish hiphop connections.

Although you never do it, a black agenda is pushed by some members. it may be hard to explain. Its noticeable when people talk about the culture of atlanta, but only mention the black cultural contributions. When they talk about musical entertainment, always rap (this is where i say they should push jazz or r&B), but never the city's jam band scene. With food, always Sweet Auburn Curb Market, never the Vietnamese bakery on Buford hwy. Its like they dont want to share space with anyone else. This thread is a great example. Just take a look at the previous posts. My orinignal one was the first one to mention unique cultural sites that dont fit into the black agenda.

If Atlanta is to be viewed as an equal to LA, NYC etc., people need to celebrate its multiculturalism, not the bi-culturalism of the city's past (just blacks and whites). Just focusing on one sub-group is unfair to the many types of people who now call the city home. If people want to celebrate specific minority cultures in the city, thats a great thing, but they shouldnt exclude the other large minority groups when talking about the general culture of the city.

DIdnt the poster say He was looking for Hip Hop its evident that Hip Hop is more popular than the R&B... If you go back and read the OPs post you can basically see he is more geared towards Hip Hop and then he wants to do the rest. everyone is giving him advice and letting him know How hot Atlanta is for hip hop in our clubs..... Just like NAshville is mostly known for Country you never here them saying NAshville is top Hip Hop Jazz city R&b city etc they promote mostly Country music. Thats not to say the others dont exist and that they dont embrace other music forms.
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Old 01-11-2010, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Here BBC goes, if you do not recall, the OP listed HIS/HER preferences as hip hop, R&B and Jazz venues, therefore the recommendations were given to him/her as such.

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some people on this thread act as if no other culture exists in atlanta besides the one they prefer. atlanta, just like every other major american city, has a black subculture - and although it is tough for some to acknowledge - it is only a subculture that now shares space with many others in the area.
to the op, go to buford hwy to taste the evidence of atlanta's large and fast-growing hispanic, korean, and vietnamese populations. go out in virginia highland and buckhead for some great american bar scenes. see a concert at masquerade or variety playhouse to take in the 'heady' side of atlanta. eat at everybodys pizza in druid hills. check out the cyclorama for a unique historical perpective of the battle of atlanta.
some people would prefer black culture to be the exclusive culture of atlanta and dont like the idea of it having to share cultural space with other prominent subgroups. as a result, they simply ignore the other groups that also make atlanta unique and add to the citys culture. sticking solely to their one-sided and exclusive reccomendations will rob you of a unique and diverse experience.
lastly, atlanta is known for many things abroad. if someone is only looking for one type of association with the city, thats probably all they will choose to hear.
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Old 01-11-2010, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Brumbert, I wish BBC's post could be looked at that benignly. That poster has a history of finding any opportunity to swipe at Atlanta's black culture with prejudiced remarks. BBC has already gotten this thread off its
tracks.

OMG, to whomever suggested Apache. That is the original; don't know how I forgot it. Apache is the bees knees, and I highly suggest you go. Spoken word, underground hip hop, r&B, jazz, and blues can all be heard in this joint. And they've got some pretty bangin food as well. It's downtown behind the Varsity but its really close to midtown

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I'm taking all this in (copying and pasting) lol

RudeBoy21: I don't doubt alot of tourists visit, however I guess it's just something a little different for me and my cuz.

I do agree 'BringBackCobain' that most will generally lean to the side they want to see etc. We're quite open and diverse in tastes so fingers crossed we will experience as much as we can in the time we have (regardless of sub-culture) etc

Quick Q. A friend visited last year and Stayed in Buckhead. How is this as a location for clubs? I think he stayed at the Holiday Inn Express or something. Might look to see what other hotels are near if the location is that good.

So now its between Buckhead and Mid-Town...
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Old 01-11-2010, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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I think that I might have started a lot of this. I asked the OP why they choose Atlanta to visit as opposed to other cities like New York, San Francisco, LA or Chicago. Just an innocent question out of curiousity.
Not your fault.Innocent question.And a fair one.Its just that in these threads their are regular "haters" who just love to do their dark magic.
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:22 PM
 
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I think that I might have started a lot of this. I asked the OP why they choose Atlanta to visit as opposed to other cities like New York, San Francisco, LA or Chicago. Just an innocent question out of curiousity.
Like match to gasoline. Its not your fault. He or she has probably decided to visit some place on the other side of the country in order to avoid any chance he might run into these people.
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