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View Poll Results: How Should Georgia Cut The School Budget
Don't Cut The School Budget- Increase Taxes 21 50.00%
Cut The Days Of The School Year/Furlough Teachers 3 7.14%
Increase Class Size/ Close Schools/Lay Off Teachers 1 2.38%
Add 1 Hour A Day And Go To A 4 Day School Week 17 40.48%
Voters: 42. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-28-2010, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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This idea is being tossed around as a way to cut the school budget. Increase the day by 1 hour and 15 minutes and cut the school week to Mon-Thursday. I don't like it a bit but of all other solutions to the budget mess, this is probably less painful for education. How do you think Georgia should solve the budget problem for schools?
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Old 02-28-2010, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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This idea is being tossed around as a way to cut the school budget. Increase the day by 1 hour and 15 minutes and cut the school week to Mon-Thursday. I don't like it a bit but of all other solutions to the budget mess, this is probably less painful for education. How do you think Georgia should solve the budget problem for schools?
In what county? Nothing of the sort has been discussed in Cobb. Your choices reflect a bunch of false assumptions, not too mention the loss of jobs for school bus drivers, lunchroom workers, custodians, and parents who would have to figure out how to find and pay for daycare for one day/wk.
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Old 02-28-2010, 11:18 AM
 
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That would be nuts! Young school kids have had it by about 2:00, and older kids, contrary to gubment school admins' belief or ability to understand.... actually have a life outside of the four walls of school. All of my children would have to drop all of their extra-curriculars if we went to this sort of schedule.

Also, I understand that school is not childcare, but schools should not set up a situation where it is impossible for working parents to hold down their jobs. Who can get a sitter for one day a week? Again, I make my own arrangements for after school and do not depend on schools to raise my kids... in fact, I'd like them at school less and at home more. It's already a challenge to keep a job and take care of the kids, but I don't mind making the effort to work it out. However a schedule like this would make work impossible. Fewer parents work.... less income made per family.... less income tax revenues. Fewer parents work..... fewer investments and purchases made... less sales tax revenues and less business revenue..... see how it works?

If you must cut.... take off five days at the end of the school year. Better yet, since school systems have no common sense with school calendars, the state should step in and mandate at least a 10 week summer ... with a start date a heck of a lot later than late July or early August. Running AC nonstop in 100 degree+ August hear is very expensive. The buses are dangerously hot, and students athletes die every year from heat related issues b/c of practices in the blistering August sun. These whacko calendars are also depressing the summer based economy in Georgia which is hurting revenues... which is hurting schools. We also have kids who desperately need to work in the summers but can no longer get jobs b/c their summers are too short.
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Old 02-28-2010, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I vote to make our school systems more like Finland or Sweden. Not everyone needs to be forced into a standard K-12 format. But unfortunately most of Georgia's politicians & leaders can barely see beyond their neighborhoods & cities, much less the world.

We are in for some rough times ahead.
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Old 02-28-2010, 08:00 PM
 
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I vote to make our school systems more like Finland or Sweden. Not everyone needs to be forced into a standard K-12 format. But unfortunately most of Georgia's politicians & leaders can barely see beyond their neighborhoods & cities, much less the world.

We are in for some rough times ahead.

I agree about the Nordic educational system. . .my SO and I have gotten quite a bit of invaluable information from acquaintances who live there. I definitely believe that we should pattern our system after theirs. . .but oh well, doubt that will be happening anytime soon.
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Acworth
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education in america: *when* it fails, pour more money in it. if the money runs out, collect more money.

repeat.

at the end your children still can't write and are completely incapable of progressing up the academic ladder. schools aren't nannies. you need to work with your children (or stop having them and expect everybody else to pay for them), get them involved in things they like and are good at.

the problem is teachers and liability. teachers aren't paid enough (and guess what, nothing will change that. the money will go towards building another stupid stadium so you parents can go and cheer some HS mascots as always) so the qualified folks don't bother taking that path and either go into tertiary/research institutions or in a different direction altogether. those who remain fall into 3 categories:
1. love teaching (god bless them. i had a few of those and can't say enough)
2. stuck teaching (may the heavens have mercy on your children)
3. don't care, just need something to do (can actually be good teachers despite not caring.)

also school districs are too politicized. there is too much censorship and pressure on teachers to dumb things down, to conform to some abstract guideline and to basically make everybody happy. well, you cannot flunk johhny stupid because then you would be fired by the PC school board, so johhny smarts parents are raising hell the system sucks and is keeping their child back. the district's answer? more abstract guidelines with some pointless programmes for "gifted" children funded with money they do not have.

so there you have it.

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Old 02-28-2010, 10:29 PM
 
Location: West Cobb County, GA (Atlanta metro)
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When you consider the fact that most teachers say only about 5% of the parents every show up for a PTA meeting or parent-teacher meetings, maybe they should just shut public schools down and make people do private schools or home schooling.

Yeah, I know - sounds nuts. But when you consider the fact that many parents spend more time shuttling their kids to ball or cheerleading practice than they do helping them with their homework (or even asking them if they've done it or have it), maybe it's not so nuts. Why should taxpayers and the State continue to spend so many millions of dollars a year on facilities the parents only view as daycare centers to keep their kids busy during the day, and take no active roll in?

Nope to four days. Just have "basic ed" schools that teach kids the basics of math and reading for grades 1-6. Then it's up to the folks to do the private or home school thing from there. It'll save the State and taxpayer untold millions, and cause the parents who do care about their kid's education and futures to stand out from the crowds.
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Old 02-28-2010, 10:33 PM
 
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When you consider the fact that most teachers say only about 5% of the parents every show up for a PTA meeting or parent-teacher meetings, maybe they should just shut public schools down and make people do private schools or home schooling.

Yeah, I know - sounds nuts. But when you consider the fact that many parents spend more time shuttling their kids to ball or cheerleading practice than they do helping them with their homework (or even asking them if they've done it or have it), maybe it's not so nuts. Why should taxpayers and the State continue to spend so many millions of dollars a year on facilities the parents only view as daycare centers to keep their kids busy during the day, and take no active roll in?

Nope to four days. Just have "basic ed" schools that teach kids the basics of math and reading for grades 1-6. Then it's up to the folks to do the private or home school thing from there. It'll save the State and taxpayer untold millions, and cause the parents who do care about their kid's education and futures to stand out from the crowds.
I'm a teacher turned home schooling mom
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Old 02-28-2010, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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When you consider the fact that most teachers say only about 5% of the parents every show up for a PTA meeting or parent-teacher meetings.
You must not have kids Greg, since your numbers show you haven't been to a school at conference time. Maybe in inner city schools that's the percentage, but I can tell you it wasn't at my children's schools in Massachusetts, and it's definitely not at their schools in Cobb. Both the open houses and teacher conferences are pretty well attended. Can't say I've attended PTA meetings here, but I've attended school board meetings.
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Old 03-01-2010, 12:22 AM
 
Location: Acworth
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When you consider the fact that most teachers say only about 5% of the parents every show up for a PTA meeting or parent-teacher meetings, maybe they should just shut public schools down and make people do private schools or home schooling.

Yeah, I know - sounds nuts. But when you consider the fact that many parents spend more time shuttling their kids to ball or cheerleading practice than they do helping them with their homework (or even asking them if they've done it or have it), maybe it's not so nuts. Why should taxpayers and the State continue to spend so many millions of dollars a year on facilities the parents only view as daycare centers to keep their kids busy during the day, and take no active roll in?

Nope to four days. Just have "basic ed" schools that teach kids the basics of math and reading for grades 1-6. Then it's up to the folks to do the private or home school thing from there. It'll save the State and taxpayer untold millions, and cause the parents who do care about their kid's education and futures to stand out from the crowds.
Your lack of school spirit dissapoints me.
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