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Old 04-19-2010, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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Thanks for posting the CBPP article neil, but I'm not sure I see where it supports your point. Do you have any more information on how the proposed legislation helps reduce waste?
Not sure I get your point...sounds like apples and oranges. Posting the CBPP article was to illustrate the fiscal difficulty that most states find themselves in today.

Not sure what you mean about reducing waste or where that's relevant to this discussion.
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Old 04-19-2010, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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Yawn,i don't give a darn whether Georgia has an arts council. Georgia's government has much more important things to be thinking about and doing.
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Old 04-19-2010, 10:54 AM
 
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Yawn,i don't give a darn whether Georgia has an arts council. Georgia's government has much more important things to be thinking about and doing.
Well, with thoughts like that, maybe you're right. Maybe the Sahara of the Bozarts (look it up) doesn't have much need for it.
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Old 04-19-2010, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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Georgia's government has much more important things to be thinking about and doing.
I won't say I don't give a damn about it, but I think this statement is very true.

When you have limited resources, you have to set priorities, and ultimately fewer resources may be allocated to one thing versus another, and in my mind we have other more important priorities when we have to stack rank them for constrained resources.

This also opens up a more academic question as to whether or not it's the job of government to be taking taxpayer money and giving it out to "arts councils" at all. I support the arts, and I think it's legitimate to ask whether that should be a privately funded item.
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Old 04-19-2010, 02:41 PM
 
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I won't say I don't give a damn about it, but I think this statement is very true.

When you have limited resources, you have to set priorities, and ultimately fewer resources may be allocated to one thing versus another, and in my mind we have other more important priorities when we have to stack rank them for constrained resources.

This also opens up a more academic question as to whether or not it's the job of government to be taking taxpayer money and giving it out to "arts councils" at all. I support the arts, and I think it's legitimate to ask whether that should be a privately funded item.
There are no "limited resources", only various competing visions and schemes for carving them up, etc. But to carve them up, you first have to define them, and that's what is most in dispute nowadays.
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Old 04-19-2010, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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There are no "limited resources"
You are kidding right? Do you not view the money the state has to spend as a limited resource?

The limited resources are the tax dollars taken in by the state each year. A budget has two sides of the equation, the taxes taken in by the state and the expenditures made with those resources.
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Old 04-19-2010, 03:50 PM
 
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You are kidding right? Do you not view the money the state has to spend as a limited resource?

The limited resources are the tax dollars taken in by the state each year. A budget has two sides of the equation, the taxes taken in by the state and the expenditures made with those resources.
Of course I realize the money the state has to spend is limited, which is my whole point. They're as limited as they can possibly be. And as such, they're subject to being defined and redefined on an ongoing basis. That process is subject to fierce dispute at all times, as evidenced by our discussion.
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Old 04-19-2010, 06:33 PM
 
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All you have to do is look at the Marta Stations and the Airport at the "art" that government paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for to understand why art doesn't get support from Georgia taxpayers.

Our politicians have turned "art" into a jobs program for any friend or relative of theirs with some plywood and spray paint.

If you want art to have more public backing, then demand that the stuff being bought by governments really is art; art that would be a commercial success elsewhere.
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:20 AM
 
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Yes, but in fairness you'll find questionable "art" in many cities. Some do it much better than others. However I am in agreement, I cringe just a little everytime I see the big mural going up to baggage claim. But she did seem to capture the spirit of Atlanta.

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Old 04-20-2010, 11:04 AM
 
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My own personal favorite is the little blue plywood "waves" nestled in a "sea" of gravel at one of the northbound Marta Train stations. That particular masterpiece must've taken at least 15 minutes to create.
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