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Old 04-22-2010, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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Its the twelve regional planning districts that are already established for the state.

http://www.dca.state.ga.us/developme...ap.Regions.pdf
Ah, excellent. Fulton and DeKalb are in there with Cobb, Douglas, Gwinnett, and even Douglas county. I was worried that it might be just Fulton and DeKalb, and possibly Clayton. FINALLY, in the years to come, it looks like we might actually get real transit moving again.

Oh, and I noticed that one of the provisions of the bills relieves MARTA of the 50-50 restriction. Now to get it relieved for good.
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Old 04-22-2010, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Ah, excellent. Fulton and DeKalb are in there with Cobb, Douglas, Gwinnett, and even Douglas county. I was worried that it might be just Fulton and DeKalb, and possibly Clayton. FINALLY, in the years to come, it looks like we might actually get real transit moving again.

Oh, and I noticed that one of the provisions of the bills relieves MARTA of the 50-50 restriction. Now to get it relieved for good.
I was just about to post the same thing.

Great news, I'll take it!
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Old 04-22-2010, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Ah, excellent. Fulton and DeKalb are in there with Cobb, Clayton, Gwinnett, and even Douglas county. I was worried that it might be just Fulton and DeKalb, and possibly Clayton. FINALLY, in the years to come, it looks like we might actually get real transit moving again.

Oh, and I noticed that one of the provisions of the bills relieves MARTA of the 50-50 restriction. Now to get it relieved for good.
lol I put Douglas county in there twice.
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Old 04-22-2010, 12:54 PM
 
Location: ITP - City of Atlanta Proper
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Great news about the bill passing, and if you read the article on the first post, it mentions that Mayor Reed was instrumental in getting the House to pass it. Glad to see the reason I voted for him is paying off and he really deserves kudos for that.

Of course this isn't a perfect bill and there are a lot of things left to be hashed out. For one, I think the 50/50 rule should banned forever, not just three years. As compromise, I think that all money from fares and the existing MARTA tax should go to operations and then use the Transportation tax for expansion.

Then there is the whole waiting two years thing for us to vote on projects. The other regions may need time to formulate plans, but the Atlanta region has all sorts of projects already planned and ready to go once a reliable funding mechanism is in place.

But, I suppose today we can focus on the bright side.

The passage of this bill almost certainly means the following:

Building of the Beltline over the next 10 to 15 years...or sooner.

A new MARTA line spur from East Point stopping in Hapeville at the old Ford Plant site and stopping at the new International terminal

The Peachtree Streetcar system being built.

A BRT or LRT line from Cumberland to Perimeter Center

BRT on 285

Commuter rail to Athens and Lovejoy

and, most importantly of all

This was the last big hurdle to receiving Federal matching funds for HSR meaning the Atlanta to Savannah line will be able to be built.

Good times
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Old 04-22-2010, 02:11 PM
 
Location: ATL
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MARTA > About Marta > Planning

They had a map with the new rail expansion but I cant find it
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Old 04-22-2010, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Great news about the bill passing, and if you read the article on the first post, it mentions that Mayor Reed was instrumental in getting the House to pass it. Glad to see the reason I voted for him is paying off and he really deserves kudos for that.
Yep, he was "working" the Legislature like only an insider could!

I saw the Mayor being quoted on the Noon news as saying "absolutely" when asked by a reporter if this bill was good news regarding The Beltline!!!!

The other good news of the day is that the Feds gave us a grant for brownfield remediation for The Beltline!
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Old 04-22-2010, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Buckhead
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I like it. Not the best bill, but I actually had my doubts if they would even pass anything. I feel if we (i.e. the good people of the state of GA) want to see change happen ALOT sooner, we are gonna have to continue to lobby both state houses and the federal government, and persuade them of the utmost importance in seeing a world class transit infrastructure come to life for once in Metro Atlanta.

And big ups to Reed. Glad he's our mayor. Atlanta needed a progressive minded person like that. I can only wonder if the same will be true for Georgia come this November. I think Ive had enough of the "Chicken Man" that I can take.....lol
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Old 04-22-2010, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Smyrna (metro Atlanta)
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Of course this isn't a perfect bill and there are a lot of things left to be hashed out. For one, I think the 50/50 rule should banned forever, not just three years.
I don't agree with that, however you can't keep giving MARTA capital to expand its service area and expect the operational costs to stay the same. IF the amount of money given to MARTA doesn't increase, then they either have to bank the capital money or have to be given a higher proportion for operations over time because otherwise they can't support expanding their service area and adding lines.

However, with that in mind, I do think they should be forced to spend on capital improvements not just for adding busses and redoing bus stops but for things like servicing NW Atlanta with rail up the Marietta Blvd cooridor.
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Old 04-23-2010, 08:19 AM
 
Location: ITP - City of Atlanta Proper
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However, with that in mind, I do think they should be forced to spend on capital improvements not just for adding busses and redoing bus stops but for things like servicing NW Atlanta with rail up the Marietta Blvd cooridor.
It'll end up being a moot point now, but the reason why MARTA hasn't added any new subway lines in 10 years wasn't because they didn't want to. It costs anywhere from $100 million to $250 million per mile to build a brand new heavy rail line. Adding a new bus line is significantly cheaper than that...
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:33 AM
 
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New transportation bill make a good start at least | Jay Bookman

House Bill 277 does not do that, or at least not all of that. All money raised in the metro region will stay in the region, but the region’s authority to decide its own transportation future is significantly restricted.

Under the bill, a “regional roundtable” of county commissioners and mayors will compile a list of transportation projects to submit to voters for their approval. However, the roundtable’s list can include only those projects previously approved by the state transportation planning director, who is an appointee of the governor.

In other words, metro Atlanta and other regions can pick only projects that the next governor will allow us to pick.

The bill also forbids metro Atlanta from using even a dime of revenue from its regional transportation tax to help MARTA, the financially distressed core of regional public transit, meet its operating needs.
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