Atlanta Really Is Behind Curve (Washington, Trenton: transplants, crime rate, home)

[Bluefly]

Originally Posted by SEAandATL

Are you sure you didn't mean the east coast of Japan? You can't tell me Philly, Baltimore, D.C., or Camden were of those 4 East Coast cities you were in this week that have no crime and no ghetto culture .

Have you been to DC in the past 20 years? It's easily one of the most vibrant cities in the country nowadays, with thousands moving into urban neighborhoods. The only real 'ghetto' is in the Anacostia area, and even that's changing quickly.

I've spent a fair amount of time in downtown Atlanta neighborhoods, and it's really not as nice or vibrant.

[DeaconJ]

Originally Posted by Bluefly

Have you been to DC in the past 20 years? It's easily one of the most vibrant cities in the country nowadays, with thousands moving into urban neighborhoods. The only real 'ghetto' is in the Anacostia area, and even that's changing quickly.

I've spent a fair amount of time in downtown Atlanta neighborhoods, and it's really not as nice or vibrant.

As nice or vibrant as what? It sounds like you're trying to compare downtown Atlanta neighborhoods to all neighborhoods in DC. Just for clarification, the downtown Atlanta neighborhoods are Centennial Hill, Castleberry Hill, Fairlie-Poplar, and Five Points, and maybe a couple of others.

No one claimed that DC isn't a vibrant city...it certainly is. But it also certainly has much more than one high crime/low income area.

[Bluefly]

Originally Posted by DeaconJ

As nice or vibrant as what? It sounds like you're trying to compare downtown Atlanta neighborhoods to all neighborhoods in DC. Just for clarification, the downtown Atlanta neighborhoods are Centennial Hill, Castleberry Hill, Fairlie-Poplar, and Five Points, and maybe a couple of others.

No one claimed that DC isn't a vibrant city...it certainly is. But it also certainly has much more than one high crime/low income area.

I was comparing inner city DC neighborhoods to inner city Atlanta neighborhoods (and I don't mean "inner city" as a euphemism, but as neighborhoods close to the city's core).

There is petty crime throughout DC, but dangerous areas are pretty well restricted to very isolated areas that few have reason to go.

Anyway, the only reason I intruded was because someone had tried to assert that DC is equivalent to struggling industrial centers like Camden, Baltimore, and Philly, and it really isn't.

[Georgia]

Originally Posted by MisterNY

I'm starting to think some people are looking for Mayberry . Some don't know what they want. They want growth, but not the headaches that come along with being a big city/metro area.

Some people are whiners. Let'em whine. After a while, no one listens.

Mayberry had Otis, Ernest T. Bass, and the two chain smoking floozies don't forget. (In a cigarette scratchy voice) Heyyyy Doll!!!!!

[tonygeorgia]

DC, Bmore, Philly, and NYC is behind the curve. High Murder rate, area is the highest in the nation in stds, expensive, very cold winters, etc.

[TheseGoTo11]

I live in DC, and it's incredibly walkable, vibrant, and while cold at times, far milder than places like Boston or Chicago. The bad parts of the city are incredibly segregated and getting more so because there's been a lot of gentrification over the last 10 years, and our homicide rate is dropping quickly. This is NOT the case in Philly or Baltimore, which don't attract anywhere near as many young professionals from other parts of the country.

Atlanta's downtown is a joke, but the unsightly, uninspiring areas around CNN and Centennial Park are more than made up for by all the hot chicks in Midtown and Buckhead.

[brownhornet]

Originally Posted by mjtinmemphis

To the op,

I turned down a transfer to Atlanta for the same reasons you suggested. I live in Chicago now, though there is guetto culture here there is many more cultures that can over ride the guettoness. I never got that feeling that atlanta had much more to its urban culture.

That brings me to my next point. Most people that I met in atlanta move there for the mild climate, percieved cheaper housing/cost of living and some for the black mecca image. Those are the ones that like the area. Those that look for the sophisticated urban lifestyle are going to be very disappointed when comparing to much larger urban cities.

If I was looking for a suburban lifestyle with a ok cost of living, Atlanta would have risen to the top of the list. Since I looked for urban amenities I chose a Chicago.

Not every city will be conducive to everyones ideal.

Excuse me but, are we talking about the same Chicago where 35 people were shot in one weekend? The same Chicago where they opened fire on a crowd of people right in front of the cops? The same Chicago thats damn near leading the world in murders right now? Yea I definitely wouldnt want to leave that for Atlanta.

[brownhornet]

Originally Posted by TheseGoTo11

I live in DC, and it's incredibly walkable, vibrant, and while cold at times, far milder than places like Boston or Chicago. The bad parts of the city are incredibly segregated and getting more so because there's been a lot of gentrification over the last 10 years, and our homicide rate is dropping quickly. This is NOT the case in Philly or Baltimore, which don't attract anywhere near as many young professionals from other parts of the country.

Atlanta's downtown is a joke, but the unsightly, uninspiring areas around CNN and Centennial Park are more than made up for by all the hot chicks in Midtown and Buckhead.

Man I lived in DC for 4 years and i'm not sure where all of this vibrance is.. but it definitely isnt on the south or east areas of DC... nor any of the areas around Howard. If we're simply talking downtown... which honestly DC doesnt really have much of, then I suppose.

[waronxmas]

Originally Posted by neil0311

Gosh darn and H-E-double hockey sticks.

Trying to avoid Thor, err, Greg's wrath

[tonygeorgia]

Originally Posted by TheseGoTo11

I live in DC, and it's incredibly walkable, vibrant, and while cold at times, far milder than places like Boston or Chicago. The bad parts of the city are incredibly segregated and getting more so because there's been a lot of gentrification over the last 10 years, and our homicide rate is dropping quickly. This is NOT the case in Philly or Baltimore, which don't attract anywhere near as many young professionals from other parts of the country.

Atlanta's downtown is a joke, but the unsightly, uninspiring areas around CNN and Centennial Park are more than made up for by all the hot chicks in Midtown and Buckhead.

DC is a joke. $2000 a month to live in a one bedroom apartment in downtown DC, DC has the HIGHEST HIV/ and STD rate in America, bars close at 1:45am during from Sunday-Thursday, Red light cameras everywhere, 200 murders each year, rude yankees everywhere, boring nightclubs (everybody thinking they are important), etc.