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Old 05-19-2010, 09:43 PM
 
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"this guy" needs to have some patience. Like he said, only as recently as 1950 Atlanta was a sleepy state capital. It takes time to turn that into a southern version of Chicago. Besides, it may be a good thing for Atlanta to see a slowdown in growth. We just passed a major transportation bill that will hopefully become law and allow us to catch up with the growth infrastructure-wise. Atlanta is a real estate town, so its current economic predicament is hardly surprising given the collapse of the real estate bubble. While I agree with the suggestions for improving the city, I think the article was overly pessimistic. I especially found irritating his mention that the city appeals only to blacks or gays. What evidence was he basing this on? I would think that Atlanta today has more appeal for more types of people than it has ever had in the past.

Atlanta's best days are ahead of it.
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Old 05-19-2010, 09:45 PM
 
Location: midtown mile area, Atlanta GA
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I looked at other articles on this website and all of them are a bit negative, it seems. I don't think this guy did any real research.
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Old 05-19-2010, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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What a strange observation. We must have read two very different articles.
No, we read the same article. Wasn't totally a straight up slam on Atlanta as it was an observation of growing pains.
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Old 05-19-2010, 09:54 PM
 
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^Very interesting read, jurban8. Thanks for posting the link.

I think it was pretty observant, but this place isn't going anywhere but up, imo. Once a place reaches this size - and with our diversified economy - it isn't going anywhere. This is no Detroit.
Perhaps, but that's actually what they used to say about Detroit back when it was the default epicenter of American commerce. No reason to believe it will go that way so long as the already strained water supply doesn't dry up, but just be careful.
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Old 05-19-2010, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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PS - I am from Charlotte and I now live in Atlanta. I have no desire to move back to Charlotte and I am not African American or gay! The airport is not the only thing going for Atlanta. What about all of the colleges in the Atlanta area? You stand a lot to lose in that aspect - there are more options for quality colleges and degrees in the Atlanta area than all of those places except for maybe Raleigh-Durham. Plus, all of the amenities (every major league sport, better concerts, Piedmont Park is great, better and more diverse nightlife, shopping, and dining, Six Flags, Aquarium, World of Coke, CNN Center, Stone Mountain, plus all of the wealth and businesses that are already here).
Agree with all your comments, plus look at all the Fortune 500 corporate HQs that are here in Atlanta. Just for starters...CocaCola, Delta Airlines, CNN, Equifax, TBS, Genuine Parts, Newell Rubbermaid, NCR, UPS, and on and on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ies_in_Atlanta

Charlotte used to be a hub for banking with Wachovia and BofA, but with the recent economic slowdown and consolidations even that isn't as true as it used to be.
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Old 05-19-2010, 09:58 PM
 
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I do like how the guy said this...

"As a Chicago city-dweller who did multiple consulting stints in Atlanta, I can tell you the city is much better than its reputation in urbanists circles suggests, and it is a place I could happily live."



So true. Atlanta gets this reputation for suburban sprawl, when many in this country don't really understand (or care to understand) how "urban" Atlanta really is.
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:00 PM
 
Location: ATL
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Another Atlanta hater...We must be doing something right with all the negative Atlanta threads and articles
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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So true. Atlanta gets this reputation for suburban sprawl, when many in this country don't really understand (or care to understand) how "urban" Atlanta really is.
Or how suburban many other places are in the US. You'd think Atlanta was the only palce with suburbs. For some reason we get picked on for so-called "sprawl" but frankly the suburbs here are really no different than the suburbs in most places.

Ever been to Long Island? Orange County, CA? Northern Virginia? Metro West in Massachusetts? All around Miami, Orlando, and Tampa? Around Seattle?
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:05 PM
 
Location: NYC by week; ATL by weekend
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Is It Game Over for Atlanta? | Newgeography.com

"With growth slowing, a lack of infrastructure investment catching up with it, and rising competition in the neighborhood, the Capital of the New South is looking vulnerable

Bad traffic congestion and other infrastructure ills didn't matter much when Atlanta was the only game in town. For a long time, anyone who needed a presence in the Southeast found Atlanta the easy default answer. In many cases it was the only real possibility.
That's no longer true. Atlanta is now surrounded by upstart, much faster growing cities such as Charlotte and Raleigh-Durham in North Carolina, Nashville, Tennessee and Charleston, South Carolina – all in many ways now have the ambitions once characteristic of Atlanta.

Atlanta's problem lies in its insufficient differentiation from these other places. Other than the airport, a clear major asset to Atlanta, what do you actually lose by moving to Charlotte or Nashville? Your commute is likely to be less. Except for certain groups – African Americans or gays – the city seems to be losing allure.

Atlanta is left as a sort of “quarter way house” caught between its traditional sprawling self and a more upscale urban metropolis. It offers neither the low traffic quality of life of its upstart competition, nor the sophisticated urban living of a Chicago or Boston."

Overly pessimistic, or somewhat observant?

"Except for certain groups – African Americans or gays – the city seems to be losing allure."...WTF????

I hate when people make such ignorant statements...the journalist or whomever wrote that doesn't fully know what they are talking about. No big urban area was recession proof. True the job market has dried up but ATL had the BEST job market when things were good. That is why everyone from New York to South Dakota were moving here. That is what brought me here. I have lived in many different places and they all seem null after a while. And I can't remember one big city without a traffic issue. Since it is only really attractive to blacks and gays I wonder what part of town he/she lives in.....

Point blank, it AINT what it was pre 2008 BEFORE the economy tanked as far as the job market goes but they are still building subdivisions and storefronts by me. Though the growth has probably slowed(I have no statistics), I think ALL kinds of people still find it attractive.
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:07 PM
 
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Or how suburban many other places are in the US. You'd think Atlanta was the only palce with suburbs. For some reason we get picked on for so-called "sprawl" but frankly the suburbs here are really no different than the suburbs in most places.

Ever been to Long Island? Orange County, CA? Northern Virginia? Metro West in Massachusetts? All around Miami, Orlando, and Tampa? Around Seattle?
So true as well. People in Metro Boston, for example, act like Boston doesn't "sprawl" when the metro area stretches all the way west to Worcester, south to Providence, and then north to Manchester!
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