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Old 06-03-2010, 03:36 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Please respect this thread by talking FAIRLY about the prospects of the future of this County that is not always represented fairly


Georgia Trend 2006:
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In Clayton County, the promise of commuter rail has become "a drawing card for the area," says Kathryn Lookofsky, Jonesboro Downtown Development and Historical Preservation director. "People who wouldn't have considered Jonesboro before are starting to pay attention. We've been off the radar for some time, but there is a lot of potential here." The city has approved plans for a new neighborhood in walking distance to the rail stop and is using an LCI (Livable Centers Initiative) grant to improve downtown and draw mixed-use development.

Morrow's station would be near I-75 and Clayton State University. As a result, the city is already swimming in new development: Twinn Creeks at Southlake is a $200 million entertainment complex with a National Museum of Commercial Aviation (featuring six full-sized aircraft) and a 70,000-square-foot semipro ice rink; the Global Trade Market is a $100 million international trade district going up adjacent to Twinn Creeks. These are expected to draw high-rise development in the 10- to 12-story range, says Grant Wainscott, Morrow Economic Development Director. Gateway Village, which includes the National and State Archives, CSU and the Commuter Rail Station, adds another $200 million in investment to the mix.

"It's actually difficult to measure," Wainscott says of the investment pumping into the city. "But it's around half a billion right now, with $140 million already in the ground." The city is also planning a new park and parking deck, to draw "six-story mixed use around the station," he adds. And the city is instituting a series of golf cart paths, in a nod to Peachtree City's successful path network.

"These are the amenities people want," Wainscott says. "As a city, we're big believers in all sorts of transportation alternatives. We want park- and transit-minded, mixed-use-enjoying residents around the University - you know, that kind of artistic, educational environment." As to whether Morrow can afford the operating cost of commuter rail, "there's not a doubt in our mind."


I do NOT live in Clayton County.
I do will own property their in the future.
I lived there 4 6 years in the late 80's and early 90's.

Now thats out the way.I have been there recently.The area of the development mentioned in the article around the Mall I must say is impressive.I do believe that Clayton will be the first area in the metro region to have commuter rail ,MARTA or both.

That will make it desirable to business if they continue to keep crime from becoming a major issue.

The Mount Zion Area is another area that continues to flourish.Its great that its not far from Southlake Mall.

Morrow is really looking like a winner:These Living Initiatives Grants it recieved are transforming that area into a very disireable one and fast.Completely under the radar if you ask me.


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Old 06-03-2010, 05:21 AM
 
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I hope you are right. I was speaking with an economics expert this week (about the risk of DeKalb schools losing accreditation) and he said that the damage done to the property values in Clayton by the loss of accreditation was unbelievable. When I inquired about the fact that Clayton was already on a downward trend, he said that losing accreditation accelerated that path immensely.

More than anything what can help Clayton (and DeKalb) is to have diligent citizens who elect responsible officials and then hold them accountable.
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Old 06-03-2010, 05:47 AM
 
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hopefully some leaders who really care about the community will get things done there
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Old 06-03-2010, 07:16 AM
 
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Sounds like a lot of wishful thinking in this thread

I do hope you are right though....
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:00 AM
 
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I hope you are right. I was speaking with an economics expert this week (about the risk of DeKalb schools losing accreditation) and he said that the damage done to the property values in Clayton by the loss of accreditation was unbelievable. When I inquired about the fact that Clayton was already on a downward trend, he said that losing accreditation accelerated that path immensely.

More than anything what can help Clayton (and DeKalb) is to have diligent citizens who elect responsible officials and then hold them accountable.
Well They do have their accreditation now,And I know most (not all) of those idiot leaders that caused the trouble were ousted.Not that its suddenly changed to "utopia", but its a big county that is still managing to keep a decent amount of people.I mean investers are not running away from the area.

Olde Town Morrow is a good example of that:

YouTube - Olde Towne Morrow/Christmas in the Park '09
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:03 AM
 
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Sounds like a lot of wishful thinking in this thread

I do hope you are right though....
Think of it this way:Clayton County is the size roughly of the City of Atlanta.Atlanta has rough parts and overall the government is broke.Yet things are still happening.Clayton has good parts and bad parts.Its not just one big bad area.
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:45 AM
 
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Think of it this way:Clayton County is the size roughly of the City of Atlanta.Atlanta has rough parts and overall the government is broke.Yet things are still happening.Clayton has good parts and bad parts.Its not just one big bad area.

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correct..my family moved from Forest Park to Fayetteville last summer and whenever i ride through clayton there is a greater police force. At least they are trying to clean it up
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Old 06-03-2010, 02:33 PM
 
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Please respect this thread by talking FAIRLY about the prospects of the future of this County that is not always represented fairly


Georgia Trend 2006:


I do NOT live in Clayton County.
I do will own property their in the future.
I lived there 4 6 years in the late 80's and early 90's.

Now thats out the way.I have been there recently.The area of the development mentioned in the article around the Mall I must say is impressive.I do believe that Clayton will be the first area in the metro region to have commuter rail ,MARTA or both.

That will make it desirable to business if they continue to keep crime from becoming a major issue.

The Mount Zion Area is another area that continues to flourish.Its great that its not far from Southlake Mall.

Morrow is really looking like a winner:These Living Initiatives Grants it recieved are transforming that area into a very disireable one and fast.Completely under the radar if you ask me.


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I totally agree.

In addition to the reasons/ideas you listed, Clayton County has a lot things going for it--and can rally around and implement some unique assets:


1. Historic/Old Town Morrow and Historic/Old Town Jonesboro. So nice already, and so much more can happen. Can be catalysts.

2. The Rex/Rex Mill area is so d@mn beautiful. A lot can be done with this historic locale.

3. The Panhandle is also very beautiful. Largely undeveloped--I can imagine Clayton doing something with area a la Chattahoochee Hills/Hill Country, but on a smaller scale (preserving beauty/nature, villages, etc.).


4. The Southlake/Mount Zion area can be made into a dynamic 5-point (and potentially 7-point) star. All connected by transit or shuttle and other pedestrian links...
a. Southlake Mall
b. Clayton State University
c. Global Trade Market
d. National Archives
e. National Museum of Commericial Aviation

In addition, I think two more could be added...
f. a Gone With the Wind Theme Park
g. A Southside "White Water" called Sapphire.


5. With the items listed in #4, plus commuter rail, MARTA, etc--the Southlake/Mount Zion area has the potential to become a dynamic southside office center as well.


6. Forest Park--I see this city benefitting from the gentrification happening in East Point, College Park, and Hapeville. Forest Park is "right there" as well. So close to Atlanta and the Airport...Forest Park could shoot up and join the others--forming a new "Quad-Cities."


7. The Aerotropolis will also benefit Clayton County. The county needs to use its proximity and extend the aerotropolis southward (as the aerotrop expands/succeeds). And then capitalize on the inevitable success.


8. Fort Gillem still has the potential to become the headquarters for AFRICOM. A great location. The county, the City of Atlanta, Metro Atlanta, the State of Georgia, and the American South should all be working together to get AFRICOM headquartered at Fort Gillem (Atlanta!)


YouTube - Andrew Young on Georgia's Prospects for AFRICOM


9. Many people don't realize the geographic advantage that Clayton County has. It is very close to Atlanta--combined with low cost housing for the foreseeable future and new transportation options (Commuter Rail, MARTA, etc.) the county is ripe for redevelopment, investment, and a resurgence (Think southern Cobb County--Mableton/Smyrna).

10. When redevelopment/new development begins, Clayton should really only encourage upper-middle and higher-end housing. The county already has plenty of affordable housing--and the county needs to have a long-term balance.

11. Lastly, I think Clayton should market itself to retirees (as well to people from all age groups). Here's why...
a. Retirees will not be concerned with schools--which right now do not have a good rep (this will change though). So retirees could easily make a move there.
b. The beautiful Lake Spivey area is appealing to many retirees (recreation, natural setting, Southlake convenience).
c. Clayton is affordable--lots of amenities/conveniences at a low cost. Money will go far.
d. Proximity to Atlanta and Airport (travel, visiting relatives in the U.S. and around the world).
e. Proximity to children/grandchildren that live in Metro Atlanta.
f. A retiree precedent is being set on the Southside (Sun City Peachtree in Griffin, Peachtree City and Coweta are popular with retirees).
g. Clayton can easily encourage the development of a few (or even several) large retiree/over 50 or 55 developments (like Sun City, and some of the developments in Ptree City).



That's it.
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:47 PM
 
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you should run for county office man..love those ideas!


Also, Forest Park is already trying to fix up the area..The FP government is investing money on Main Street behind the rail line in the city.When i stayed up there i believe they said something about a new rail system was coming to the county and many of the shops on Main Street were closed in plan to build a train station.
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Old 06-03-2010, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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you should run for county office man..love those ideas!


Also, Forest Park is already trying to fix up the area..The FP government is investing money on Main Street behind the rail line in the city.When i stayed up there i believe they said something about a new rail system was coming to the county and many of the shops on Main Street were closed in plan to build a train station.
I know right!!Those were great ideas.Forest Park and Riverdale have vast potential but Forest Park has the farthest to go.Riverdale I know has big plans similar to those in Morrow.
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