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Unread 01-01-2011, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Midtown Atlanta
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Originally Posted by afonega1 View Post
So what?NYC back in the 80's and 90's was a horrible place to live.I'm glad they got their act together but don't act like NYC has not had its share of trouble.Not to mention the distinction of going bankrupt TWICE which Atlanta has never done.Atlanta is doing it without all of the racial implications that NYC went through during that period as well.
Size has nothing to do with it anyway.
Was never acting like NYC doesn't have problems. I was just struck by the headlines in the two cities at the same time. And btw, Atlanta came awfully close to going bankrupt. Not sure what you mean by racial implications.
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Unread 01-01-2011, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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every big city has problems! bigger doesnt mean better! new york has survived and endured somethings that atlanta hasnt. thats what gives the area its sophistication to pull off events that other cities cant.
Give me abreak!Atlanta city SEAL is this for a reason:


"Latin meaning “Rising Again.” It’s indicative of Atlanta’s reconstruction following the Civil War.

Like the mythical bird the Phoenix.(The symbol of our great city) it arises from the ashes to be reborn after it was thought to be defeated.Now greater,stronger and harder than ever before it."


New York NEVER had to endure war.Never burned to the ground!In fact no other American major city has ever had that distinction.I swear New York s NOT the only city to endure hardship and grown.
Atlanta is doing more than just fine.

And it is not sophisticated to be "broke" twice! Gimme a Break!!If this were any other city but NYC you guys would use it all like ou are now but instead you use "spin".So transparent.
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Unread 01-01-2011, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Midtown Atlanta
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Originally Posted by afonega1 View Post
Give me abreak!Atlanta city SEAL is this for a reason:


"Latin meaning “Rising Again.” It’s indicative of Atlanta’s reconstruction following the Civil War.

Like the mythical bird the Phoenix.(The symbol of our great city) it arises from the ashes to be reborn after it was thought to be defeated.Now greater,stronger and harder than ever before it."

New York NEVER had to endure war.Never burned to the ground!In fact no other American major city has ever had that distinction.I swear New York s NOT the only city to endure hardship and grown.
Atlanta is doing more than just fine.

And it is not sophisticated to be "broke" twice! Gimme a Break!!If this were any other city but NYC you guys would use it all like ou are now but instead you use "spin".So transparent.
Really? I'm sure Chicago would like to argue with that one...
Great Chicago Fire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Unread 01-01-2011, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Was never acting like NYC doesn't have problems. I was just struck by the headlines in the two cities at the same time. And btw, Atlanta came awfully close to going bankrupt. Not sure what you mean by racial implications.
Every major city in America has come close to becoming bankrupt.NYC is the only one (i think that actually did).People could not even get paid.I mean Guiliani's"broken glass policing" I believe it was called.It did work but at what cost?I suppose that would depend on who you are asking.

And Atlanta's future is brighter than ever.This city arguably has (and still) is re-eventing itself constantly.Improving and using its negatives to create new ways that turn into positives.You cant honestly say even with Atlanta's negatives is not been as bad as you and some others are portraying.All I hear is "double standards"
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Unread 01-01-2011, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Really? I'm sure Chicago would like to argue with that one...
Great Chicago Fire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It was in reference to war.Im aware of the Chicago fire.I lived in Chica and have family there.
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Unread 01-01-2011, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Midtown Atlanta
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I own a home here. I love this city. It's got a bright future. But please don't be one of these boosters who would rather stick their head in the sand than pretend that Atlanta does not have safety issues.
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Unread 01-01-2011, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Arlington, Va
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Originally Posted by afonega1 View Post
Give me abreak!Atlanta city SEAL is this for a reason:


"Latin meaning “Rising Again.” It’s indicative of Atlanta’s reconstruction following the Civil War.

Like the mythical bird the Phoenix.(The symbol of our great city) it arises from the ashes to be reborn after it was thought to be defeated.Now greater,stronger and harder than ever before it."


New York NEVER had to endure war.Never burned to the ground!In fact no other American major city has ever had that distinction.I swear New York s NOT the only city to endure hardship and grown.
Atlanta is doing more than just fine.

And it is not sophisticated to be "broke" twice! Gimme a Break!!If this were any other city but NYC you guys would use it all like ou are now but instead you use "spin".So transparent.
There's a lot of debate as to the extent of the damage Sherman did in Atlanta and the south has been known to romanticize its past to extremes. From what I've read, the key targets were military and transportation, definitely not civilian. Yes, its true that Atlanta was an important objective during the civil war but honestly the city wasn't all that big of a deal at the time. Sure it was strategically important due to location and the railroads but it wasn't even the state capitol until after the war.

Atlanta in the American Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also, New York was occupied by the British from 1776-1783. That's longer than the Reconstruction period in Georgia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_F...ork_%281776%29

Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_Washington

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1906_Sa...sco_earthquake

Last edited by DTL3000; 01-01-2011 at 08:04 PM..
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Unread 01-03-2011, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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There's a lot of debate as to the extent of the damage Sherman did in Atlanta and the south has been known to romanticize its past to extremes. From what I've read, the key targets were military and transportation, definitely not civilian. Yes, its true that Atlanta was an important objective during the civil war but honestly the city wasn't all that big of a deal at the time. Sure it was strategically important due to location and the railroads but it wasn't even the state capitol until after the war.

Atlanta in the American Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also, New York was occupied by the British from 1776-1783. That's longer than the Reconstruction period in Georgia.
Great Fire of New York (1776) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also: Burning of Washington - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1906 San Francisco earthquake - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yes I know there is debate,but the poster I wa replying to still gets my point.
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Unread 01-03-2011, 05:03 PM
 
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So, "LA" takes up a ridiculously large land area and has a huge population. Parts of LA, like South Central, East LA, Parts of South LA and parts of North Hollywood all pretty much suck from what I remember (which was back in the 2006 time period). You stay out of those areas and pretty much avoid crime. West LA and the ritzy areas have little violent crime and a lot less property crime. I have no idea what LA is made of when people analyze crime statistics. Now, downtown LA scared the crap out of me when I would go there for concerts at the Orpheum. But you go to places like the Wiltern and it's totally safe.

As for NYC, I spent the summer of 2006 there. I have never felt so safe in my life, aside from my summer in England. Again, the crime in certain boroughs drives up the crime statistics for the entire city. The same problem happens with DC, where I currently live.

What I'm wondering is how safe is the area by the World of Coke (I'm looking at the Gables property down on Auburn) to live in for a single, 25 year old white girl? I have a dog that I will be walking at night.

The reason I described my experiences with those other cities is that Atlanta seems to be much smaller in population and/or land mass than LA or NYC, so it's difficult to make generalizations, even looking at crime statistics. You have to look at crime maps of the specific areas you're interested in moving to.

That all being said, what is an honest take on that area of ATL that I mentioned above?
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Unread 01-03-2011, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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I own a home here. I love this city. It's got a bright future. But please don't be one of these boosters who would rather stick their head in the sand than pretend that Atlanta does not have safety issues.
I understand but I am not one f those.I have moved and live other places before I came and decided this was the place.Its not perfect but its not all those things people are trying to make it out to be.All I want is for people when discussing these issues is to put them in the proper perspective.Not to mention Atlanta has as so many haters on this forum its not natural.I have people stalking me and sending D.M. about how horrible Atlanta is and how it is the worst place in America.As much as their are boosters in the Atlanta forum.Most from what I have seen give solid info and facts to back up what they are defending.It may be "boosterism" but as long as it accurate and based on some form of reason and logic,then I see no problem.
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