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Unread 10-01-2011, 05:54 PM
 
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Just repeating my response to your post in the other thread :

I know you're anti-rain barrel; but the last .25 inch shower we had in JULY! left us with 60 gallons of non-chemical-laden water to use on our garden plants and young trees. I'll admit that we couldn't water the lawn with our barrel, but it only takes one brief shower to refill it.(Unfortunately NO showers in Avery Ranch since July ) I'd still rather use untreated water on edible plants and young trees.

Our barrel is 7+ years old...I'd say it's paid for itself(55 bucks) by now
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Most likely you havent yet broken even. lets say you are typical and are in the 2-9K range so you are paying 2.78 dollars/1000 gallons. that represents about 19,000 gallons at breakeven. Assuming that you completely empty the barrel before it rains the next time (unlikely) that means it would need to rain 359 times before your rain barrel broke even. Since 1/1/2004 it rained 121 days above .2 inches.

This site shows rainfall data between arbitrary dates
WCTS - Rainfall Data

This shows the price per 1000 gallons
0 - 2,000 Gallons $ 1.06
2,001 - 9,000 Gallons 2.78
9,001 - 15,000 Gallons 7.15
15,001 - 25,000 Gallons 9.88
25,001 - over Gallons 10.99
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Unread 10-02-2011, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Most likely you havent yet broken even. lets say you are typical and are in the 2-9K range so you are paying 2.78 dollars/1000 gallons. that represents about 19,000 gallons at breakeven. Assuming that you completely empty the barrel before it rains the next time (unlikely) that means it would need to rain 359 times before your rain barrel broke even. Since 1/1/2004 it rained 121 days above .2 inches.

This site shows rainfall data between arbitrary dates
WCTS - Rainfall Data

This shows the price per 1000 gallons
0 - 2,000 Gallons $ 1.06
2,001 - 9,000 Gallons 2.78
9,001 - 15,000 Gallons 7.15
15,001 - 25,000 Gallons 9.88
25,001 - over Gallons 10.99
But are you counting in the value of the edibles that were referred to (presumably at organic prices)?
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Unread 10-02-2011, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Avery Ranch, Austin, TX
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But are you counting in the value of the edibles that were referred to (presumably at organic prices)?
Thank you. Mostly only herbs survived this year!

Not to mention the money saved by not having to fashion and install a drainage system from the downspout that feeds the barrel. Yes, it can overflow the 60 gallon barrel in a storm, but holding back that first 60 gallons in a quick shower can mean the difference between soggy grass and not.(Happens to be the area in front of DW's potting table...no soggy footing desired.)
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Unread 10-02-2011, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Avery Ranch, Austin, TX
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Most likely you havent yet broken even. lets say you are typical and are in the 2-9K range so you are paying 2.78 dollars/1000 gallons. that represents about 19,000 gallons at breakeven. Assuming that you completely empty the barrel before it rains the next time (unlikely) that means it would need to rain 359 times before your rain barrel broke even. Since 1/1/2004 it rained 121 days above .2 inches.

This site shows rainfall data between arbitrary dates
WCTS - Rainfall Data

This shows the price per 1000 gallons
0 - 2,000 Gallons $ 1.06
2,001 - 9,000 Gallons 2.78
9,001 - 15,000 Gallons 7.15
15,001 - 25,000 Gallons 9.88
25,001 - over Gallons 10.99

Not that the 'worth' of my rain barrel is calculated in dollars only; but I'm afraid we are pretty high up that usage list. 3700 sq ft house with four bathrooms on a 1/3 acre lot(with LARGE live oaks + other trees) and a 'former' Master Gardener(Georgia) in residence.
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Unread 10-03-2011, 12:00 PM
 
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But are you counting in the value of the edibles that were referred to (presumably at organic prices)?
why would you do that? You could have watered those same edibles with city water at less cost. The return is the same the cost is what is variable.

Obviously not by much. Im not against rain barrels, just that they absolutely do not have a financial return. But they certainly can have an emotional return.
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Unread 10-03-2011, 01:25 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Definately a major concern. People who haven't seen the lakes lately are shocked to do so.
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Unread 10-03-2011, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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You need to remember that even if we are in this pattern for the next 5-10 years, that doesn't mean every year will be a drought, nor will every year be as intense as this year.
Austin Mabry yearly rainfall during the "drought of record"
1947: 21.58
1948: 20.98
1949: 36.34
1950: 25.79
1951: 28.98
1952: 27.71
1953: 29.68
1954: 11.42
1955: 22.54
1956: 15.41
(end)1957: 51.30

I personally think that we are already expriencing a similar pattern to the drought of record, and it started in late 2007, and will probably go for another 5 years.
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