Kelso vs. Californian :) (Austin, Orange, Huntington: lease, houses, to buy)
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If you're referencing me in the above, you left out the part where I do believe in courtesy. I don't believe in having to walk around on eggshells trying not to offend people every step I make. I don't call people derogatory racial names, haven't been slamming all the Californians like is happening right now, I don't make fun of people for physical or mental limitations. I have a black friend who wasn't into all the pc terming either. She told everyone she knew not to call her African American or American of African Descent. She said she's black and to not be afraid to say it. Of course, if someone prefers a certain way, I'll respect that...for any race (African American, German American, British American, Czech American, etc...) I love Geoge Carlins take on it. As for fireworks, we can't have them either...even sparklers (which is ridiculous, especially after all the rain we had).
I'm in stupid Williamson County though. It might be different in Austin/Travis County. To heck with their rules though. I'll just do them in my backyard. My sister lives nearby, and a bored cop hassled her about her sparklers and gave her a ticket for them. It was $60.
I am in Williamson County and I can do sparklers. We can do all the fireworks that aren't the big deal ones, like we can do the fountains, etc.
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I don't call people derogatory racial names, haven't been slamming all the Californians like is happening right now, I don't make fun of people for physical or mental limitations. I have a black friend who wasn't into all the pc terming either. She told everyone she knew not to call her African American or American of African Descent. She said she's black and to not be afraid to say it. Of course, if someone prefers a certain way, I'll respect that...for any race
Then you DO care about being PC. Not caring, would be contrary to everything you just said. Calling people whatever you wanted, or not being concerned if certain people were offended by being "called" black vs, African American, etc. I assume you hold the door for people in a wheelchair, etc. All that is being PC. NOT being that, is flat out rude and uncompassionate.
If you like the weather, scenery, etc. so much, why the hell are you here?
I have my answer to that one. It's the most desirable state I could find that we could get a job transfer to and that had reasonable housing prices. I would prefer to be able to stay in my own home town of San Diego, but it just wasn't possible to do that and have a reasonable standard of living. It's sad, but it's true.
So I try to love where I've ended up. Actually, maybe that is the vibe that some of you pick up from some Californians. I really wanted to get away from Dublin which is an hour away from San Francisco and is a bedroom community. It seemed no one that I ran into really wanted to be there - they wanted to live closer to their job but couldn't afford it. Same was true of Temecula near San Diego. Maybe we bring some of that with us. Priced out of the land we love and needing to find a place to live where the prices make some rational sense.
But if housing prices went down in California to the level they are here, I wonder how many of us would head back out there? After being here 2 years, I'm pretty sure I would go back and I don't think I would have answered that way two years ago.
All the conversations about 'Californians' does tell you that it's on the minds of Austinites, especially natives and near natives. Sadly, it just takes one or two 'bad apples' to make the whole bushel rotten.
Most of us have known an equity millionaire from Calif who come here to treat Austin like a 'cheap' place to live. This person (whom I know personally..relocated because of husband's job and works with mine) drives a hummer and range rover, bought a sweet older house in Tarrytown for cash ($700s), tore it down and built what can only be called a McMansion that towers over their neighbors. She complains about NO TRADER JOE's (Gosh, I'm sick of hearing about Trader Joes, whatever that is), no good shopping, no beach (hmm...did she own a map before she moved here?) and basically 'no action' as she puts it. It's funny how she's always dressed up when we're not, etc. When we ask her why she moved her she says she wanted to get away from the superficiality of California life and the running around....oh boy. It makes it hard NOT to see all Californinans the same way.
If you're from California and you're ready to become an Austinite, where bigger doesn't mean better, where materialism isn't what makes you a better person, where commercialism takes a back seat to nature, where you accept people and things for what they are without trying to change them, WELCOME TO AUSTIN.
If you're from California and you're ready to become an Austinite, where bigger doesn't mean better, where materialism isn't what makes you a better person, where commercialism takes a back seat to nature, where you accept people and things for what they are without trying to change them, WELCOME TO AUSTIN.
Couldn't have said it any better... that was perfect
I agree...Beautifully stated! Jenbar, I'm not even old yet by any means, but I'm just like a stubborn old woman who can be stuck in her own little ways (I'm only in my 30's). I just have a problem with the term "PC". You may be right, but I just can't make myself come to grips with that term
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I can see both sides to alot of what is being posted here. I am a real Californian, I have been born and raised here, my entire 33 years. I have lived by the beach (which I now hate and have not been since I was a child) and i live in Temecula and have for 21 years. This used to be a quiet great town, of course when I was 12, I thought life as I knew it had ended) But we adapted, and about 9 years ago I really loved it!! In those past 9 years, it has grown HUGE!!! (Tashina is familiar) WHere this once nice, quiet POLITE town was now stands a traffic ridden mess, RUDE people (who think they are millionares on equity lines) crazy drivers and just plain crappy people. So I do miss what it was.....
For the last 2 years we have discussed moving away from here, first we thought Arizona (too hot) then South Utah (beautiful, but no money to be made form y husbands job, concrete contractor) so now we are making a trip to Austin, to see if it fits us. We are probably on the outside your perception of California, but inside is what matters, and I think too many people "assume" you are what they see....You should never judge a book by its cover....
I fit some of your perceptions of "California", I have a big house, drive an Escalade, stay home with my 3 small children. BUT I was a broke single mom, working my butt off to just get by, when I was 22, and I had a 2 year old son. 9 years ago I met my husband, and together we have reached many goals. Our biggest was to have my husband slow down and actually know who our children are. Yes we can afford to stay here, but that is not the point, we want a better way of life, where people actually do hold the door for you, say thank you, let you in front of them if you are going the wrong way, come outside of their houses after they get home with work, see kids playing outside and making "life long" friends.....So I ask why is that HATED?? I can see if you bring attitude, it does steer peoples opinions, and that is sad. But I hope our experience there, when we visit, makes us feel like this would be a place we wanted to raise our kids. You can never blame someone for wanting to provide that for their families.
I look around and see the rudest people, and do not want my kids to think that is ok. I teach them manners and correct them, not like most i see here. I held the door for a man at my son's school the other day twice, both coming in and leaving, he did not say thank you (while i was walking my 3 yol out with a 7 mo old on my hip) and the next day i saw him again, and agian i held the door, the thought crossed my mind not to, but i thought, he must be a really unhappy person, mad at whatever, and have no manners, and that is not who i am. I am not going to change my ways, because someone doesn't do as i would, i just try to ne the best person (from California) that i can be. You can not help where you are born and raised, you can only help what you teach and provide to others as an example. My greatest accomplishments, are my husbadn and our children, that is who i need to stay true for......
Life is full of change and dissappointment, Accept the things you can not change, and move forward, love life and make the most of it!! As the new Kenney Chesney song says," when your hour glass runs out of sand, you can't turn it over and start again"
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