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Old 08-06-2012, 10:38 PM
 
Location: The People's Republic of Austin
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I don't believe you for one second to suggest Seton is now or has ever lost money. Those nuns are experts and getting every last dime they can, and spending next to nothing .
Moderator cut: personal attack The leadership of Seton, at the executive level, is 100% lay people. Out of almost fifty people in the entire Seton team, there is ONE nun in a lower level leadership role, at a single campus. 2%, by my lit major math. Second, your assumptions about what drives the current Seton system profitability couldn't be further off the mark. So, if you think that gravy train will deliver a cost free med school to you in perpetuity, well, I refer you back to the opening sentence.

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Old 08-07-2012, 02:43 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX/London, UK
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Moderator cut: personal attack The leadership of Seton, at the executive level, is 100% lay people. Out of almost fifty people in the entire Seton team, there is ONE nun in a lower level leadership role, at a single campus. 2%, by my lit major math. Second, your assumptions about what drives the current Seton system profitability couldn't be further off the mark. So, if you think that gravy train will deliver a cost free med school to you in perpetuity, well, I refer you back to the opening sentence.
I thought it was pretty obvious that was a joke, but guess not.

I have never said it would be cost free. I have never once implied anything close to that. You said it will cost tax payers $4.1 Billion. Me saying that is not true is not saying it is free. lol. I said that was not true, Seton already said they would pay $1.9 Billion of that plus $250 Million for building the hospital. That is not me saying Seton is paying $4.1 Billion. Me saying Seton will pay $1.9 B of the $4.1 B is me saying Seton will pay $1.9 B of the $4.1 B. I don't know why me saying that is so upsetting or gets you angry. I don't mean to. I also don't know how I can be clearer in what I am trying to say in how much Seton said they will pay. Since we obviously aren't going to be able to agree on what $1.9 Billion is, lets move on...

How exactly is this going to cost the tax payers $4.1 Billion? Since that is the title of the thread, it is probably the best starting point to figure out. Can you elaborate on the math behind how we as the tax payers are on the hook for $4.1 Billion? Because to me that statement just looks like typical Fox News style reporting and typical conservative spin math. Take the biggest number you can find from any story and throw it out into the world screaming that the tax payers are going to have to pay it in an attempt to scare the living crap out of them. The truth and reality of what that number is be damned. Unimportant, just so long as you can successfully scare the crap out of a few people with the typical conservative lies.

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Old 08-07-2012, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Moderator cut: personal attack The leadership of Seton, at the executive level, is 100% lay people. Out of almost fifty people in the entire Seton team, there is ONE nun in a lower level leadership role, at a single campus. 2%, by my lit major math. Second, your assumptions about what drives the current Seton system profitability couldn't be further off the mark. So, if you think that gravy train will deliver a cost free med school to you in perpetuity, well, I refer you back to the opening sentence.
Correct about the Seton leadership.

My brother was the "Co" CEO of Seton in the late '70s, the other "Co" CEO was a nun. They were officially associate CEOs.

He was in charge of building the present facility on 38th Street and moving all the hospital operations from the old location in West Campus. In other words, he actually ran Seton's day to day business, she gave final approval as the representative of her order of nuns.
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