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Old 10-29-2007, 06:55 PM
 
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What are the laws in City of Austin for a private establishment - holding a private wedding ceremony and reception (of three hours duration) - in providing bathroom arrangements for guests?

By law, are you not required to have toilet facilities available to your (paying - bride/groom and their) guests? Or, are "historic facilities" grandfathered and not required to have bathrooms or out-houses available?

Just curious ....
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:08 PM
 
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Man, I would hope so, or they'd have a huge problem on their hands I'd think if historic facilities are renting space for events of any type, they would be required to provide a bathroom.
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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LOL...I just had a picture in my head of a bride trying to squeeze into a port-a-potty in a wedding dress .
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:20 AM
 
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It would have been disastrous, had the property they were using not imposed upon a guest to allow access to their bedroom/bathroom during the wedding. It inconvenienced the guest and no compensation or adjustment on the room rate was offered. So, we are wondering, BY LAW, what is a facility required to provide during a four-hour event (which they were paid handsomely for)...... Anyone know Austin Health Laws?

thank you (from the out-of-town visitor) ....
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Let me guess. You're looking to sue?
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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First off, I will admit I really don't know if there are any laws related to providing bathrooms. When we were 'shopping' for a reception hall for our wedding, one of the first questions my wife asked was 'let me see the bathrooms' . She wanted to make sure she could get her and her dress into the restrooms and make sure they were clean. It may be a 'buyer beware', although I suppose that it is possible that the establishment was at fault if you can show there was an expectation that facilities would be provided - for example, if you were in a hotel or a conference center, I would say that it would be expected. If you leased out a place that was outdoors with buildings that did not typically require on-site facilities, that may be different. If they regularly hold receptions/weddings, you would think that they would either have facilites or let you know that you needed to make some arrangements.
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:58 AM
 
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Thanks for your note - the Bed & Breakfast admits they made a mistake by selling all their rooms (to another wedding party). Normally, their "Library" and adjoining Powder Room are reserved for the wedding party's use (as a changing room - and then the Powder Room as the common bathroom). The bride declined in advance to use the Library for her wedding party, as it was tiny. As "aunt of the groom", I had the cottage on-site reserved and offered my suite of rooms to the bride for her use in changing. When I checked into the B&B, I was told "oh by the way, we'll need to use your bathroom during the wedding for the guests as we are completely booked" (UT football weekend). Of course, I was speechless and apalled and wanted to know what my choices were. They offered none, and I didn't want to create unnecessary drama, and verbalized that I realize I had no recourse as all the rooms in town were sold --

I did express my unhappiness to the facility management / owner several times during the course of the weekend but no monetary compensation/adjustment was offered.

I will document the event, and formally request an adjustment, but wanted to be able to quote the Health Law, if there is one on record.

Still searching the web for that!
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:03 AM
 
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No, I don't wish to sue the establishment. But I do expect a significant adjustment. I was unable to use my bedroom and bathroom until after 10:30pm. I checked in at 4pm.

Not only that, I was told my personal items would be securely locked in the cottage's common area (and I would hold the key). When, around 9pm I went to the cottage, it was unlocked.

I have been treated rather indifferently by the owner. She isn't very concerned about my inconvenience and I'd like to get her attention.
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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That does sound like a mess, but I am glad there was something available, even if it was your room...

After a quick search, this came up. I would guess a B&B could be considered most similar to a hotel, but it could also be considered a specialty event center, I suppose. If it is a historic building, then it is not subject, either. I do not know that this is the most applicable section of the THSC or the only applicable section, so you might want to keep looking.
Quote:
341.068. RESTROOM AVAILABILITY WHERE THE PUBLIC
CONGREGATES. (a) Publicly and privately owned facilities where
the public congregates shall be equipped with sufficient temporary
or permanent restrooms to meet the needs of the public at peak
hours.
(b) The board shall adopt rules to implement Subsection (a),
including a rule that in providing sufficient restrooms a ratio of
not less than 2:1 women's-to-men's restrooms or other minimum
standards established in consultation with the Texas State Board of
Plumbing Examiners shall be maintained if the use of the restrooms
is designated by gender. The rules shall apply to facilities where
the public congregates and on which construction is started on or
after January 1, 1994, or on which structural alterations, repairs,
or improvements exceeding 50 percent of the entire facility are
undertaken on or after January 1, 1994.
(c) In this section:
(1) "Facilities where the public congregates" means
sports and entertainment arenas, stadiums, community and
convention halls, specialty event centers, and amusement
facilities. The term does not include hotels, churches,
restaurants, bowling centers, public or private elementary or
secondary schools, or historic buildings.
(2) "Restroom" means toilet, chemical toilet, or water
closet.
(d) The board may adopt rules consistent with Subsection
(c)(1) to define "facilities where the public congregates."

Added by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 624, 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1993.
This is the law...it is incorporated into the Texas Administrative Code (TAC) here:
: Texas Administrative Code
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:23 AM
 
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The term does not include hotels, churches,
restaurants, bowling centers, public or private elementary or
secondary schools, or historic buildings.

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