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Old 11-21-2007, 02:25 AM
 
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What will Austin be like in 20 years?

Will current building trends continue to make Austin more like other, more boring places?
Will it be gridlock 12 hours every day or will TX government step up to provide adequate road infrastructure?
Will it retain it's charm and "weirdness" or will this significantly change?
Will the rivers and lakes stay open and usable or will the increase in population cause lake shut-downs due to pollution?
How far will "metropolitan Austin" spread?
Will demographics significantly change?
Will crime increase?
Will weather patterns change the economy by alternating droughts and floods?
Will the business climate stay strong and vibrant with new technologies, or will companies close or move away?
Will the airport expand?
Will Austin remain an oasis within Texas or start becoming Houston-or Dallas- or San Antonio-Lite?

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Old 11-21-2007, 02:34 AM
 
Location: DFW Texas
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What will Austin be like in 20 years?

Will current building trends continue to make Austin more like other, more boring places? PROBABLY
Will it be gridlock 12 hours every day or will TX government step up to provide adequate road infrastructure? GRIDLOCK
Will it retain it's charm and "weirdness" or will this significantly change? AUSTIN WILL ALWAYS BE WEIRD....IN A GOOD WAY
Will the rivers and lakes stay open and usable or will the increase in population cause lake shut-downs due to pollution? A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH
How far will "metropolitan Austin" spread? SEE http://www.city-data.com/forum/texas...galopolis.html
Will demographics significantly change? BE ABOUT THE SAME
Will crime increase? ONLY IF AUSTIN PD DOESNT KEEP UP WITH DEMAND
Will weather patterns change the economy by alternating droughts and floods? THAT IS NOT ONLY AN AUSTIN PROBLEM BUT ALSO A STATEWIDE PROBLEM
Will the business climate stay strong and vibrant with new technologies, or will companies close or move away? STAY STRONG
Will the airport expand? IF AUSTIN WANTS TO CONTINUE GROWING IT WILL NEED TO.
Will Austin remain an oasis within Texas or start becoming Houston-or Dallas- or San Antonio-Lite? SEE http://www.city-data.com/forum/texas...galopolis.html

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Old 11-21-2007, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Funny. Up until a few years ago, I never knew Austin was such an oasis when compared to those other hideous Texas cities. It was just the state capitol with a really big college, nothing more.
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Hutto, Tx
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1. Building trends=Already starting to. Notice the people who want to live downtown, but who are complaining about the noise from the clubs.
2.Gridlock?=Just getting toll roads going, and if Perry gets his way with the TTC, we'll have too much roadway. Giuliani is a TTC fan as well.
3. Charm=Lost a bit, but it's still around.
4.Rivers and Lakes=We need better controls in place now. Look at Bull Creek and Hamilton's Pool.
5. Metro Austin=Megalopolis
6.Demographics=Same
7. Crime increase=Personally, I think it has. But still less than Dallas or Houston.
8.Weather Patterns=Doubt it. Weathers been like that in Texas since the dawn of time. Any economic problems usually stem from Developers putting things in places they never should have been.
9. Business Climate=Can only get better
10.Airport expand=yes, I'm sure it will.
11. I can see it being Houston lite since the laid back atmosphere is something both have in common.
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Slaughter Creek, Travis County
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We don't know. An interesting question but I lack the acumen or knowledge to make such a prediction. Come back in another 20 years and if we are still alive, we'll let you know.

If you live here, enjoy the ride. It's always good in Austin.
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:46 AM
 
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What will Austin be like in 20 years?
Just another big box, boring city
Will current building trends continue to make Austin more like other, more boring places?yes
Will it be gridlock 12 hours every day yesor will TX government step up to provide adequate road infrastructure?only to increase the tax burden and solve nothing
Will it retain it's charm noand "weirdness" nothing more than a marketing toolor will this significantly change?
Will the rivers and lakes stay open and usable again, only if the government can charge taxes to use themor will the increase in population cause lake shut-downs due to pollution?
How far will "metropolitan Austin" spread?as far as it can
Will demographics significantly change?California East
Will crime increase?Probably, as the population increases
Will weather patterns change the economy by alternating droughts and floods?Weather has always changed, regardless of how many people live in a place. Will there be more pollution? Yes.
Will the business climate stay strong and vibrant with new technologies, or will companies close or move away?Companies will stay as long as they get tax breaks from the city. People will move/stay in Austin as long as the tax burden on them isn't excessive...and it's rapidly getting that way
Will the airport expand?As long as the taxpayers foot the bill
Will Austin remain an oasis within Texas or start becoming Houston-or Dallas- or San Antonio-Lite?An oasis for who? The developers? Builders? Austin hasn't been affordable for musicians/artists for a while. It's a nice, hilly place to live. If you've been here for a while, you know lots of people and it's home. I'm not sure I'd move here today.

That post got me thinking. I think the City of Austin is about to kill the goose that laid the golden egg.
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I see Austin turning into a trendy upscale Dallas wannabe town that will be restrictiioned to death about what is built there.
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Austin
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I think that when gas starts going up to the double-digits per gallon, suburbs like Georgetown and Buda will atrophe and become scrap heaps. People will move from Austin back to smaller towns and cities that aren't completely dependent on automobiles and distant food shipments.
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Up in a cedar tree.
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Austin will be like this in 5 years:

http://www.cpmission.com/bigjim/sanfran/sanfran5.jpg (broken link)

just joking!! But that would be cool! -But it is growing like crazy here!
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:50 AM
 
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Austin will be fine in 20 years. In fact, better than today.

Just think about Austin 20 years ago: 1987. Sure, it was funky, but it was also barely large enough to call a real city. It was coming off the oil boom that defined the skylines of downtown Houston and Dallas. Condos in NW Hills were in the mid 30s, houses in the 140s. People were lamenting the loss of the good old days of the Armadillo World Headquarters, back when Austin was cool. The hype machine was still going strong, though, as Timbuk3 was born at Hole in the Wall and the relatively new MTV focused their attention on Austin and a crazy guy named Daniel Johnson... Plus, just a few years earlier, the Clash chose Austin as the location of their video for "Rock the Casbah". That's what was going on those days.

UT was incredibly easy to get into; top 25% of Texas high school students were pretty much accepted no matter what, on scholarship. And even if you didn't have a scholarship, school and housing was dirt cheap. Although the seeds of Austin as a tech city were already planted (with IBM and TI,) for the most part Austin was a city of students, academics, slackers, and politicians (when the legislature was in session.)

Our little road system was even more piddly:

Mopac stopped near Spicewood Springs / Steck to the north, and 2244 to the south and became a regular road. 183 & 360 intersections both north and south were stop lights. No part of 183 was a real highway; just a 4 or 6 lane road. 360 and it's western bridge over lake Austin were only a few years old.

The boom back then put a couple of tall buildings in the middle of nowhere -- the "tower of the hills" at 620/183, and the building that is now the ACC Pinnacle campus off 290. These places were way, way out there. Because of how Austin's growth focused only on the north in the 90's, the roads around ACC Pinnacle in the south are nearly identical to how they were 20 years ago... Y at Oak Hill included. That's what 183/620 looked like back then, too.

There were of course no toll roads, no Southwest parkway, but there was a Circle C -- it, along with it's developer, was universally hated by the rest of Austin for what it was doing to the environment. It went dormant from the late 80's until southwest Austin "woke up" not too many years ago.

In 1987, there was no Circuit City, Best Buy, Lowes or Home Depot... no Ikea, Fry's, Sams or Costco... or any of the big box retailers which pop up around them. There was Walmart and Academy Surplus, and Sears/Montgomery Ward at our malls (Hancock, Highland, Northcross, and Barton Creek.) Big box stores, when they finally did come to Austin, all pretty much popped up around the Arboretum. The southern part of the city would remain small-town Austin for many more years.

Speaking of which, South Congress was a ghetto at the time. The area around Barton Springs Road / Barton Hills and even Travis Heights was funky and cheap.

Anyway, that's how I remember it, as a UT student from Dallas. I would not have lived here at the time, except for being a student... it was generally boring and didn't have much to offer beyond graduation.

So, I'm happy with about 97% of the changes over the past 20 years...
The 3% I don't like is pretty much the traffic problems, and the loss of my own personal beloved Austin institutions (Liberty Lunch, the Back Room, Waterloo Brewing, the Forest Ridge mountain biking trail, etc.)

If I happen to be around for 20 more years, I think I'll be pleased with 90%+ of the changes over that time. I say go ahead and bring it.
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