Decker PGA level course proposal (Austin, Center: living, shop, sushi)

[scm53]

Originally Posted by Austin97

Im just starting to play golf right now but recognize that golf is a dying sport because of the massive use of resources it requires.

Sure coulda fooled me on that, based on my last trip to Top Golf.

Look, are there too many golf courses, driven by RE development? Yes. Are golf courses closing? Yes, but mainly due to the underlying land becoming too valuable. However, in 1960, there were 5 million golfers. Since then, the population has grown by 75%, yet there are now 25 million golfers.

So, accepting your argument (which I don't) "that golf is a dying sport", would love to see something behind what you propose is the cause - "because of the massive use of resources it requires".

[hound 109]

Originally Posted by petro

I thinks it's great idea. The land is underutilized.

hound 109—Walter E. Long Metropolitan Park is about as much "the east side" as 4 Points is Tarrytown.

4 Points & Tarrytown are both on the west side, what's your point?

If I misspoke, tell me what the name of that area is (as opposed to what is isn't). I have no clue what the area south of the Waffle House (on 290) & North of the Airport (on 71) is called....except for the east side.

And like many here, the "utilization" of that valuable piece of property out near Johnny Morris Drive (thanks guys ) isn't a terribly pressing matter except for those folks who live out there. (as long as it's not a money pit). Cow pasture, cotton field, cr#p city golf course right next to THE cr#p city tennis courts....whatever.

Are there no snail darters out there to save it from the invasion of Bermuda shorts?

[petro]

Originally Posted by hound 109

tell me what the name of that area is (as opposed to what is isn't).

Manor

[Komeht]

Originally Posted by Sushi4321

COA is already pumping water from the Colorado for that lake as Decker Creek doesn't have enough water. So now we are going to pump even more water from the Colorado while squealing about the rice farmers downstream. And COA has already committed water to some of the up and coming developments around Manor. Lots of straws going back to the same pond of water. How about cowboy qolf or disc golf not another water guzzler?

I don't believe the proposal is to pump water from Colorado River. It's supposed to be a low-water use course and rely on reclaimed water. Not sure on the details about that.

As for the rice farmers, I really could not care less about them. They pay pennies on the dollar for what we pay for water. Its interruptible, that's why it's so cheap.

[Komeht]

Originally Posted by Austin97

they said they are going to use reclaimed water. COA has a water treatment plant at johnny morris rd and fm 969. The pipe runs up johnny morris rd. That water is grey water (or whatever it is called) that is partially treated, but not fully treated water.

I own 20 acres nearby and am excited about the mixed use colony development. But I agree with letting the new city council do it.

On the plus side the new city council can unravel whatever the currrent city council does in the next few months. I doubt the current city council could commit to the entire project between now and the end of the year.

I also think that creating a golf course to generate revenue is a stupid idea and the city council members probably have no understanding of business. I can virtually guarantee that anything the city council decides will cost us more money than they bring in (net loss). Rather than create a bag ban costing us millions they could have taxed the bags and then used that revenue to help clean up parks.

There are volunteer orgs that could and would turn that land into something useful.

For example:
- Ultimate frisbee and soccer teams (would generate about 5000/per acre per year) and could mobilize a huge force of volunteer labor. Soccer is a huge growing sport and there is a tremendous shortage of fields.
- Mountain bike trails - no revenue, but not much cost to develop.


Im just starting to play golf right now but recognize that golf is a dying sport because of the massive use of resources it requires.

You demonstrate little knowledge about the deal. It's a license agreement. The city is out nothing. The risk is on the licensee. Worst case, they invest millions, no one comes, the place goes belly up and defaults on all of its covenants to the city - the city gets a PGA level golf course at no cost.

I really don't see the risk here.

The idea of turning that land into frisbee golf course or soccer fields in nonsensical. 1. There's no money to do it - so who's going to fund it? 2. Even if you did, that's not a big enough draw to get people to the far side of Decker Lake - there's nothing going on out there.

A golf course like this, OTOH, is a destination in itself. So it doesn't have to be where people already are or go to.

[riaelise]

The decker lane area where that park is located is in austin, zip code 78724. East side of austin.

[petro]

Originally Posted by riaelise

The decker lane area where that park is located is in austin, zip code 78724. East side of austin.

Manor ISD. Call it "Austin" if you want, but it's hardly "the east side."

[riaelise]

Originally Posted by petro

Manor ISD. Call it "Austin" if you want, but it's hardly "the east side."

Hah. So what is the east side then. Oh I get it, thats the hip name for the gentrified section. It doesn't matter what ISD the park falls under, Johnny Morris area and that zip code is city of austin. And who cares if it's called east side?

[petro]

Originally Posted by riaelise

Hah. So what is the east side then. Oh I get it, thats the hip name for the gentrified section. It doesn't matter what ISD the park falls under, Johnny Morris area and that zip code is city of austin. And who cares if it's called east side?

Doesn't surprise me that someone from Round Rock would think so.

"The east side" is a widely recognized neighborhood just east of downtown. That is what people are referring to when they say "the east side." They aren't referring some park 15 miles northeast of the city that borders Manor.

And I've lived on the east side since before it was gentrified. Loved it then, love it now. And couldn't care less what you think is hip.

[riaelise]

Originally Posted by petro

Doesn't surprise me that someone from Round Rock would think so.

"The east side" is a widely recognized neighborhood just east of downtown. That is what people are referring to when they say "the east side." They aren't referring some park 15 miles northeast of the city that borders Manor.

And I've lived on the east side since before it was gentrified. Loved it then, love it now. And couldn't care less what you think is hip.

Oh, is that what it is? Gee, by golly. I used geography, pardon me!

And I could care less about your proper definition of east side. I'm just here for some lolz since you latched onto hounds description for some odd reason. Again who cares what east side is, the city parks dept wants to explore developing a golf course.