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Old 08-14-2016, 12:00 PM
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Weather is fine here in the summer. I work in an office and live in a small, efficient home. We stay cool.

Fall winter and spring are glorious here. Glad I left New York 5 years ago.
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Old 08-14-2016, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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It was hot as balls last night. Definitely had the swamp ass going on.
It wasn't hot, just humid. This is why humidity is worse than heat.
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Old 08-14-2016, 01:01 PM
 
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Must have not heard of the Aztecs, Incas, Mayans, Olmecs, etc haven't you?



Yes, the Europeans weren't equipped to deal with such conditions. Africans, Asians, and Native/Latin Americans were more adapted to the humid tropics and, thus, could build strong civilizations where the Europeans faltered. America, in combining European technological prowess, with the living skills of Africans/ Asians, and Latin Americans/Native Americans, were able to form the ultimate empire that allowed them to be the super power they are today, conquering the unconquerable.

Med climates are desirable, right? So why aren't we seeing evidence of uneven distribution over wealth/power of Native American tribes, wherein the strongest, longest lasting empires were on the West Coast?
Let's look at Europe. Greece, the Roman Empire, the Ottoman Empire, & Israel were all in the Mediterranean climates of Europe.

The reason why most of the civilizations were in South America was because ice sheets coated most of North America, down to mid Oklahoma. The climate wasn't Mediterranean in California at that time, it was more like Seattle's climate. Very rainy climates like that were hard to civilize back then. That's why the Norse/Vikings came much after the Roman empires when they had finally figured out how to establish a society in cold wet climates.

Europe didn't have ice sheets because of the Gulf Stream. In fact the Med climate stretched farther south into Morocco, Tunisia, and Libya. Even Alexandria was more Mediterranean in nature instead of desert-like. So it could be argued that northern (lower) Egypt was more Mediterranean at the time of civilization.

Give it a rest.
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Old 08-14-2016, 01:30 PM
 
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Let's look at Europe. Greece, the Roman Empire, the Ottoman Empire, & Israel were all in the Mediterranean climates of Europe.

The reason why most of the civilizations were in South America was because ice sheets coated most of North America, down to mid Oklahoma. The climate wasn't Mediterranean in California at that time, it was more like Seattle's climate. Very rainy climates like that were hard to civilize back then. That's why the Norse/Vikings came much after the Roman empires when they had finally figured out how to establish a society in cold wet climates.
1.) Ice sheets did not stretch down to Oklahoma; the furthest south they stretched in the Eastern US was only around the Great Lakes region.

2.) South America has its Med Areas. So, when down in South America, why was the concentration of power, wealth, empires, etc not on the west coast? Same with North America, with all its Native American tribes.

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Give it a rest.
You make bogus claims, and I refute them. Simple as that.
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Old 08-14-2016, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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1.) Ice sheets did not stretch down to Oklahoma; the furthest south they stretched in the Eastern US was only around the Great Lakes region.

2.) South America has its Med Areas. So, when down in South America, why was the concentration of power, wealth, empires, etc not on the west coast? Same with North America, with all its Native American tribes.



You make bogus claims, and I refute them. Simple as that.
1. Read up on Kansas Glaciation.

2. The Incas had their civilization along the spine of the Andes. Only sporadic tribes were in the Brazilian rainforest. The reason they had their civilizations along the spine of the Andes was because it was cooler and because it was easy to follow it from city to city. Even Mexico City, capital of the Aztec empire is at high elevation. Mayans were the exception.

You are not going to win this.
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Old 08-14-2016, 02:07 PM
 
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1. Read up on Kansas Glaciation.
And that glaciation occurred well before the first humans settled North America, and thus, wouldn't have mattered, in regards to controlling when/where civilizations developed.

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2. The Incas had their civilization along the spine of the Andes. Only sporadic tribes were in the Brazilian rainforest. The reason they had their civilizations along the spine of the Andes was because it was cooler and because it was easy to follow it from city to city. Even Mexico City, capital of the Aztec empire is at high elevation. Mayans were the exception.

You are not going to win this.
The climate along the Andes spine, while cooler than the lower jungles, still had the sheer wet, humid climate. Same with the high areas of Mexico where Mexico City is located. You haven't really refuted anything.
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Old 08-14-2016, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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And that glaciation occurred well before the first humans settled North America, and thus, wouldn't have mattered, in regards to controlling when/where civilizations developed.



The climate along the Andes spine, while cooler than the lower jungles, still had the sheer wet, humid climate. Same with the high areas of Mexico where Mexico City is located. You haven't really refuted anything.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quillota was a main city in the Incas, near Santiago, Mediterranean Climate.
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Old 08-14-2016, 03:22 PM
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quillota was a main city in the Incas, near Santiago, Mediterranean Climate.
Santiago is officially classified as semi-arid; it does have Med tendencies, however:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santiago#Climate
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Old 08-14-2016, 08:04 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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It's now 87 at 10pm on the east coast. No problem.
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Old 08-15-2016, 12:23 AM
 
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Nobody "didn't believe it." It's a recorded temperature. Everybody knew what the temps in Austin are, OP. It's not 1800s where people have to guess what the climate in another state is.
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