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Old 04-21-2008, 08:30 PM
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The 9.5 Million projection for Austin and surrounding areas doesn't include San Antonio it is Austin and it' 'burbs like Dripping, Lakeway, Cedar Park, Pflugerville etc. They project 30% growth in jobs over the next two years in Lakeway alone. I guess the lone red dot in our state is attracting to all them there west coast folks...Let's just hope they don't screw up our taxes and buisnesses too much.
The math just doesn't add up...Lakeway is 8000 pop. The alleged 'projection' of 9.5 MILLION folks ain't gonna happen because of anything in Lakeway, Dripping or Pflugerville. Atlanta had 3 million folks 25 years ago, three or four of the fastest growing counties in the US during that whole time and it's only at 5.5 million now.

Anybody got a source for this 'projection'?

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Old 04-21-2008, 09:16 PM
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The math just doesn't add up...Lakeway is 8000 pop. The alleged 'projection' of 9.5 MILLION folks ain't gonna happen because of anything in Lakeway, Dripping or Pflugerville. Atlanta had 3 million folks 25 years ago, three or four of the fastest growing counties in the US during that whole time and it's only at 5.5 million now.

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Not to mention Atlanta had the Olympics -- and that really brought a lot of newcomers. Hopefully the Olympics will never grace Austin.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:40 PM
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Austin population to pop - Austin Business Journal:

Flash back to 1950: Austin is a humble Texas town, a small city where politicians and college students converge. I-35 and other major roads have yet to be considered, and the town is an oasis for the 135,000 people who live here.

Now, flash forward to 2050: The Austin area is one of the largest metropolitan areas in the United States. It has outgrown San Antonio decades earlier, and its size and affluence rival the Boston area and eclipse the Detroit area. More than 7.8 million people now call Central Texas home.

In less than 50 years, the population of this high tech hub is projected to top 7.8 million, according to new population projections released this month by American City Business Journals Inc., the parent company of the Austin Business Journal.

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Looks like we have some time to enjoy Austin before it gets too over-crowded.
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Old 04-21-2008, 09:44 PM
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The math just doesn't add up...Lakeway is 8000 pop. The alleged 'projection' of 9.5 MILLION folks ain't gonna happen because of anything in Lakeway, Dripping or Pflugerville. Atlanta had 3 million folks 25 years ago, three or four of the fastest growing counties in the US during that whole time and it's only at 5.5 million now.

Anybody got a source for this 'projection'?

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The projections of 30% growth in jobs (not people) over the next two years for Lakeway comes from The Lakeway City officials who spoke at the community I live in last month. As for the population growth of Austin and surrounding areas that was from a convetion of medical professionals that was held with the new medical centers/hospitals going in. In the 90's Austin experienced a 48% growth in population (if you know how to use google you too can find this info) over the last 6 years it has been down to only 20%. With Austin being named as one of the top cities to live in several publications that number is expected to increase into the 30% range or beyond. Sources lets see the city council, local news...

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Old 04-21-2008, 10:19 PM
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The projections of 30% growth in jobs over the next two years for Lakeway comes from The Lakeway City officials who spoke at the community I live in last month. As for the population growth of Austin and surrounding areas that was from a convetion of medical professionals that was held with the new medical centers/hospitals going in. In the 90's Austin experienced a 48% growth in population (if you know how to use google you too can find this info) over the last 6 years it has been down to only 20%. With Austin being named as one of the top cities to live in several publications that number is expected to increase into the 30% range or beyond. Sources lets see the city council, local news, fox news...
Dude(dudette), NONE of that adds up to 9.5 MILLION people in 12 years!
Google yourownself and leave the math to others. If I've told you once, I've told you a million times...don't exaggerate!

Population, percent change, 1990 to 2000 32.8% 22.8%
The line above is from the US Census stats: First number is Austin growth over the DECADE...second is Texas growth over same time.
Quite a difference between growth based on change over a decade and leaping to that SAME rate of growth YEARLY to show inflated stats. I'll buy 30 per cent growth over the next decade...looks like a comfy 2 million folks by then.

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Old 04-21-2008, 10:24 PM
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Here are just a few of the many articles of Central Texas Growth.

"The fastest growth in Travis County — which swelled 41 percent - Parts of that area grew by more than 438 percent. Parts of Pflugerville more than tripled in size, as did much of far East and Northeast Austin. One western Travis County area, along Barton Creek and Texas 71, grew 170 percent since 1990. Some Southwest Austin subdivisions grew by as much as 134 percent.
"I hate to admit it, but the region sprawled more than I thought it had," said Ryan Robinson, the City of Austin's demographer. "I was certain that you'd have this significant urban core population increase along with a suburban population increase. The urban core held its own, but there was not as much growth in light of the suburban growth. The suburban growth was overwhelming." "With the completion of major new highways, SH-130 and SH-45, population is projected to grow 30 to 40 percent over the next five years"
"The Central Texas Explosion - Rapid Growth Ahead
From a population standpoint, Austin, Texas has had its ups and downs. During the tech boom of the 1990's, the population of Austin (previously a sleepy college town) swelled significantly. But when the tech boom went bust around 2000, many of those new jobs and people left the state capital once more.
Starting around 2004, however, things began to turn upward again in Austin, Texas. The tech sector rebounded, and many other industries began to open up shop in the city as well. Now that the dust has settled, let's take a look at the numbers:
In the past five years, the population of Austin, Texas has increased by 40 percent. That's more than triple the average growth rate for cities across the United States.
Now, we are also seeing tremendous growth in the cities surrounding Austin. Excellent schools, great shopping opportunities and newly revitalized highways have spurred growth in such Central Texas cities as Round Rock, Cedar Park, Hutto and Leander."
Fastest-growing cities in Central Texas
Cedar Park: Population up 194 percent
Pflugerville: Population up 183 percent
Bee Cave: Population up 176 percent
Kyle: Population up 133 percent
Leander: Population up 123 percent
Lago Vista: Population up 98.5 percent
Round Rock: Population up 93.7 percent
Lakeway: Population up 90.3 percent
Georgetown: Population up 75.8 percent
Austin: Population up 41 percent

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Old 04-22-2008, 12:00 AM
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Dude(dudette), NONE of that adds up to 9.5 MILLION people in 12 years!
Google yourownself and leave the math to others. If I've told you once, I've told you a million times...don't exaggerate!

Population, percent change, 1990 to 2000 32.8% 22.8%
The line above is from the US Census stats: First number is Austin growth over the DECADE...second is Texas growth over same time.
Quite a difference between growth based on change over a decade and leaping to that SAME rate of growth YEARLY to show inflated stats. I'll buy 30 per cent growth over the next decade...looks like a comfy 2 million folks by then.
I'm with you on this one--I've seen a figure of "2.5 million" (40% above current level) in much MORE than 12 years, quoted in a couple of places for metro Austin, but 9 million??? That seems EXTREMELY far fetched.

Example 1: 2.5 million, 20+ years, from Envision Central Texas.
Example 2: Between 2.7 and 3.5 million, next 35 years - Business Journal (UT).
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Old 04-22-2008, 09:10 AM
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Are you kidding??? Our traffic is horrible and just getting worse everyday. Crowded?? Yes. Sprawl? Yes. 50 Lowes? Yes. Check. Move here and watch it get just like wherever you moved from....
If Austin's traffic is "horrible" I don't even know how to describe Atlanta's. Austin has a long way to go before they can match Atlanta on that front.
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Here are just a few of the many articles of Central Texas Growth.

"The fastest growth in Travis County — which swelled 41 percent - Parts of that area grew by more than 438 percent. Parts of Pflugerville more than tripled in size, as did much of far East and Northeast Austin. One western Travis County area, along Barton Creek and Texas 71, grew 170 percent since 1990. Some Southwest Austin subdivisions grew by as much as 134 percent.
"I hate to admit it, but the region sprawled more than I thought it had," said Ryan Robinson, the City of Austin's demographer. "I was certain that you'd have this significant urban core population increase along with a suburban population increase. The urban core held its own, but there was not as much growth in light of the suburban growth. The suburban growth was overwhelming." "With the completion of major new highways, SH-130 and SH-45, population is projected to grow 30 to 40 percent over the next five years"
"The Central Texas Explosion - Rapid Growth Ahead
From a population standpoint, Austin, Texas has had its ups and downs. During the tech boom of the 1990's, the population of Austin (previously a sleepy college town) swelled significantly. But when the tech boom went bust around 2000, many of those new jobs and people left the state capital once more.
Starting around 2004, however, things began to turn upward again in Austin, Texas. The tech sector rebounded, and many other industries began to open up shop in the city as well. Now that the dust has settled, let's take a look at the numbers:
In the past five years, the population of Austin, Texas has increased by 40 percent. That's more than triple the average growth rate for cities across the United States.
Now, we are also seeing tremendous growth in the cities surrounding Austin. Excellent schools, great shopping opportunities and newly revitalized highways have spurred growth in such Central Texas cities as Round Rock, Cedar Park, Hutto and Leander."
Fastest-growing cities in Central Texas
Cedar Park: Population up 194 percent
Pflugerville: Population up 183 percent
Bee Cave: Population up 176 percent
Kyle: Population up 133 percent
Leander: Population up 123 percent
Lago Vista: Population up 98.5 percent
Round Rock: Population up 93.7 percent
Lakeway: Population up 90.3 percent
Georgetown: Population up 75.8 percent
Austin: Population up 41 percent
Hmmm, so where are all these people coming from?? There isn't another place in country with that kind of population increase! I remember being a Senior at UT (1995) and watching an Oprah show about "The Best Places to Live in America" and seeing Austin, TX named #1. I knew at that moment that Austin would never be the same again, and I was right. I knew everyone and their mother would want to move here, and I was right. Dell has helped the population swell to what it is today, but the secret was out and everyone is still talking about Austin 13 years later! I wish all these publications would stop talking about Austin and it would stop getting so much publicity! If we could just slow the migration to sustainable numbers, it wouldn't be so bad for those of us who have lived here our whole lives.
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Hmmm, so where are all these people coming from?? There isn't another place in country with that kind of population increase! I remember being a Senior at UT (1995) and watching an Oprah show about "The Best Places to Live in America" and seeing Austin, TX named #1. I knew at that moment that Austin would never be the same again, and I was right. I knew everyone and their mother would want to move here, and I was right. Dell has helped the population swell to what it is today, but the secret was out and everyone is still talking about Austin 13 years later! I wish all these publications would stop talking about Austin and it would stop getting so much publicity! If we could just slow the migration to sustainable numbers, it wouldn't be so bad for those of us who have lived here our whole lives.
OK, we close on our house June 2nd...what say we change the combination on the gate right after that?!?
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