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Old 07-22-2008, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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We lived in Portland for 7 years and I can tell you there is no better place to spend summer than in Pacific NW. I just cannot believe how miserable Austin summers are.. although I would say that winter is definitely better in Austin.

It does *not* rain for 9 months in Portland -- it certainly didnt for the 7 years we lived there. In my opinion this is as inaccurate as a Portlander saying that Austin is 105+ degrees 9 months in a year.
Agreed! It does not rain much in Portland, at all. I merely said it's overcast and bleak for a good part of the year.

In fact, average rainfall there is nearly identical to Dallas...Texas, that is, not Dallas, Oregon. +/- 34" per year.

The bit here is Dallas' rainfall total occurs over 8 days. Portland's??? 8 months.

I redefined rain when we moved there. It's more like an incessant drizzle. Hey, any place which has moss growing on cars, which are in-use and not parked under a mossy tree when parked, is not dry.

When I first got there and saw this, I quite literally busted out laughing, thinking, "who could be so careless as to have moss growing on their daily driver?!" Then it happened to me. Granted, we'd been in the hospital for a couple of months, and my car was parked under a tree, but still.

Even our brand-new house, which had a south- and west-facing driveway, on a cul-de-sac, with no trees covering it, had moss growing on it by year two. Moss control = pressure washer

The. Pacific. Northwest. Ain't. Dry.

This said, pretty much anything will grow there. You want squash for a family of 8...a family of 8 which loves squash?! Plant one seed. They'll have to give extra away.

Summer there is like a drought, elsewhere. Three months of no clouds, not a drop of rain, usually a light breeze, and it does get toasty. Sure, the locals may say you don't need air-conditioning, but then again, I don't need to hear my neighbor's snoring at 2AM, either.... Our neighborhood's houses (Canby, for those in-the-know), for the Portland-area, weren't on top of each other, either.

That's another thing about Portland, specifically. It's interesting how regulated life there is. If you're serious about going, research it, first. Taxes, property rights, allowed property sizes for houses, overall governmental regulation. It's a bit socialist. I'm not saying it's China, I'm saying it's more regulated than most places I've encountered.

You want to cut down a tree on your own property? Ask the county, first. All the liquor stores are state run. You are not allowed to pump your own gasoline, which sounds great, 'till you have to wait 15 minutes for a pump-jockey, and you're paying top-dollar for gasoline. They don't regulate diesel pumping, but there are stations which do not allow that, either.

I've never managed to get a straight answer on that last part...fuel pumping. I'd asked several state agencies and a couple of legislators...several different answers.

Be careful of Beaverton, OR, too. They are the only 'city' west of the Mississippi with a city income tax. They didn't need it, but the state threatened them with school funding cutbacks, which didn't pan out, but the city decided to keep the taxes rollin' in after the idiots who live there passes the issue. The residents were a bit miffed when the city said, essentially, "hey, you voted for it...too bad."
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:31 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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I've never lived in Portland, like I said, I just visited with some vague thoughts on moving there. It was BEAUTIFUL when I visited (in Jan or Feb)! Sunny & I only needed a light sweater, but I was told that was unusual.

If you say it doesn't rain 9 months out of the year, cool. I just know that I talked to a ton of different people (mostly waitstaff) who told me it did. Maybe they were exaggerating, I don't know. I remember being pretty shocked that it rained THAT much.

I like going into "averages & records" on weather.com to check out highs, lows, and rain: Here's Portland's: Average Weather for Portland, OR - Temperature and Precipitation
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Old 07-22-2008, 07:05 PM
 
Location: New Orleans & Austin
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We spent last week at our Austin home and are now back in NOLA for awhile. I've got 60 summers under my belt -- 20 in North Louisiana, 40 in NOLA. And I can tell you that the NOLA humidity just about knocked me over when we drove up to our home last sunday evening! One week in Austin and I had already acclimated to less humidity! Just 91 here today but jeez, steam bath when I walked out to get the morning paper! In Austin, I managed to walk in my neighborhood from 7 to 7:30 -- 1.5 miles and felt great. Yeah, a bit sweaty but not bad. So much better than the treadmill I have to use in NOLA -- not a chance of walking outside for me in this humidity! Much happier walking in Austin and looking a folks' yards and the occasional deer and rabbits (one was indeed munching on a lovely plant, however!) than watching TV for 30 minutes while on the 'mill. But my skin in Austin! Yikes! I'm going to have to get a hat and wear it all the time (and I look awful in hats). Just kept slathering on the moisturizer. Never realized just how much that humidity helped. Guess I've been living in NOLA for so long I've developed gills! I second the suggestions re water and hydration and shade. A few minutes in the sun without protection and I became a crispy critter. I'll know better next time.
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:59 PM
 
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You are not allowed to pump your own gasoline, which sounds great, 'till you have to wait 15 minutes for a pump-jockey, and you're paying top-dollar for gasoline. They don't regulate diesel pumping, but there are stations which do not allow that, either.
I visited Portland last year and loved it. The gas-pumping thing is a bit odd. I didn't even realize this was the case until I tried to get gas at Costco and someone ran up to pump it for me at Costco!

I'm sure it originally had something to do with protecting the jobs of the gas pumpers, but now it's just grown into an obviously stupid law that can't be removed since it would just point out how stupid a law it was in the first place.

That being said, I think downtown Portland is what downtown Austin dreams it could be when it finishes growing up. Lots of people live in and around downtown, tons of restaurants/shops/bars/and jobs. Pretty good public transportation.
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Old 07-22-2008, 10:14 PM
 
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I have to agree with the statement that heat may be uncomfortable, but cold can be downright painful. Imagine spending months in a place where it gets so cold that even with extra gloves, your hands still hurt or where the wind chill hitting your face feels like it's burning the skin off. And if you really want to feel pain, imagine your home heating bill. With the price of oil only going up, having a warm home in the winter may someday become a luxury.

But it's interesting to see how the weather affects people. I guess I can understand why some people might get depressed by oppressive heat. For me, a lack of sun would depress me. As cold as it gets during Chicago winters, I feel much better on the days it's sunny. That's why I ruled out ever moving to the PNW. Besides the higher cost of living, I could never take having long periods of no sun or having shorter days. I'm sure I will hate Austin summers, but I also think the rest of the year will make up for it.
It's bracing!
Gimme zero over the 100. You just need the right clothes to thrive at zero - and get the right stuff to get you outside. At 100 there's nothing you can do but stay inside.
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:22 PM
 
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Geez--you can't pump your own gas in Portland? Do they charge for full-serve? That's just unheard of!
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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Geez--you can't pump your own gas in Portland? Do they charge for full-serve? That's just unheard of!
You can't pump your own gas anywhere in Oregon. As for full service, its really no more expensive for gas in Oregon than it is in Washington for self-service. Its hard to get an exact estimate since different states charge different taxes on gas. I always look like an idiot whenever I go to another state and have to read all the directions on the pumps to figure it all out. The only thing that kind of stinks is that pumps close early in some places. I remember being at the coast with my husband when we were first married. We watched the sunset then wanted to head for home and there were NO gas stations open past 9pm and no towns inbetween our house and the coast (mountain range, about 50 miles). We just crossed our fingers and drove home and somehow we made it. I've found in states with pump your own laws, gas stations are open later.

Portland does not rain constantly, but it is gray, all the time in the winter. Our spring was rather gray, even for this area and I heard from local farms that it does affect their growing seasons. Drizzle is a good way to describe it. It rarely rains between June and September, but this morning was cool and drizzly. I had a friend call me and tell me this was my fault because I love the rain, love storms, etc. So we are moving to Austin.....yeah, thats smart.....not.
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Old 07-23-2008, 12:36 AM
 
Location: Greater Seattle, WA Metro Area
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Someone mentioned suicide rates being really high in Portland? I livei in Seattle which is rumored to have the same problem. According to the Big Cities Inventory, it's actually Co Springs, then Vegas, Tucson and Sacramento for the Top 4. They didn't discuss what came after that but this is article I found...
Springs Suicide Rate is No. 2 Among 54 Major U.S. Cities - Health - redOrbit

Who would have thought that??
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Old 07-23-2008, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Maybe the OP should keep their home at 78 and 80 instead of 79 and 82. and check the accuracy with a real thermometer!

My Electric bills for the periods of April $116 May $162 June $220 this is for two units one upstairs and one downstairs it also covers all other electric usage in the house. I figure that about 1/2 my summer electric usage is for the a/c's. The house is early ninties and 29xxsqft.
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Old 07-23-2008, 10:08 AM
 
Location: in my mind
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I'm with the OP.

Today is my 37th birthday. That's approximately 34 Texas Summers (I was born overseas, military family, so we didn't get back to Texas until I was 3)... and I have yet to adjust. I've lived in the Corpus Christi area, San Antonio, Houston, Dallas... it doesn't matter. I HATE IT. I have a huge change in mood (for the better!) once we get back into cooler weather.

I am another who "hibernates" in summer. This summer has been especially bad though, less escape, because I have an old house with window units and one of the main ones is not in service due to an electrical issue I can't currently afford to fix. So it's much hotter in my bedroom and it is very hard to sleep.

Oh, and my van A/C died. So going out for groceries means coming home sweating and continuing to be miserable for a good half hour after.

I recognize the need for sunshine so I try to get out and mess with my garden a little each day, but I give up when the sweat is running into my eyes so bad I can't see. I've lived here almost all my life, I own nothing but lightweight cotton, keep my hair short or up off my neck, keep hydrated. It doesn't matter. Even on a recent (end of May) trip to the beach (Port A), I thought I'd been dropped off in hell and I swore I wouldn't return until after October. I love camping but I won't do it here between May and October!

Some of us are just that way, I guess. My mom is the opposite, loves the summer here and is always out in the heat doing something. Not me!
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