How is Austin City compare with Oklahoma City (apartment, live)
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Oklahoma City. Worse weather (many more tornadoes and hail storms), even more conservatives, less scenery, generally not-as-up-to-date...closer to the awesome scenery of Kansas and Nebraska.
Austin. Good weather, conservative yet the school tends to offset some of it, it's the southern "tech center"...and it's not occupied by 60 IQ Oklahomeys. You're close enough to Mexico to get stupid, if need be.
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Yeah, I'm from Texas...uh, huh....
Good weather?!! I left because of the weather -- hot, humid, bugs and spiders everywhere -- one house was crawling with scorpions. Yep, sure is heaven there in Austin! Oh yeah, the traffic is wonderful -- you could read a lot of books during commute time just sitting there. Also got sick of listening to all the UT drivel. But the major reason I left was the high taxes -- you talk about your neighbors to the north having low IQ's (which is a Texan fabrication, no doubt)......why don't you ask yourself why you sit there and pay the high property/school taxes. Oh, and how about the allergies? Never heard so much sniffling and snorting in my life -- sounds like a perpetual pig farm . Cedar fever? Never affected me, but if it had, I would have left the next day.
Further, only the ignorant would throw barbs at the plains states like NE and KS. To me, there's nothing prettier than a wheat or corn field stretching to the horizon on a summer day. And have you ever gone star-gazing from the Great Plains? It's like looking at the ceiling of a massive planetarium. And guess what.....that comes from somebody who lives in the Rocky Mountains! If I can see beauty in NE and KS, you sure can! I couldn't see much of the night sky in Austin for all the city light pollution. I never saw any 14,000-foot peaks down there in the Hill Country either. We have a lot of Texans up here living, vacationing, buying land.....my next-door neighbors are from there. If Texas is so great, how come ya'll like to come to Colorado so much, eh? Oh, by the way, I moved to Texas only because of a job transfer; I should have quit the job and saved myself a lot of misery. It was the worst bunch of years I ever spent....mostly a waste of time. The only things I liked were the friends I made, the bluebonnets, the songbirds, the Broken Spoke, Sammy and Bob on KVET, and breakfasts at the Fire Hall in Manchaca or Menchaca, however you spell it. You can have the rest.
Geez, you guys can't even get along amongst yourselves, i.e., the UT/Aggie rivalry. Course, you know the joke that goes: What do you call an Aggie 5 years after graduation? Answer: A boss. I think if the Longhorn set would do less beer drinkin' and more studyin', you could even the score of who's the smarter of the two rivals.
I guess you've never understood sarcasm, eh? Humor, either.
We've lived at 9K feet of elevation in Park Co., CO. We'd go back in a second, if the economy in Denver were better.
Yes, OKC has more tornadoes and hail than Austin, period. Winters are colder. The heat is near equal, though it's been warmer than average this year.
Um, allergies are nearly everywhere. Even in Vegas, which is essentially desert.
In the past three years, my wife and I have been to every single continental state and ten, count 'em, ten, Canadian provinces. Texas ain't perfect, no, but you took my post much, much, MUCH too seriously.
I didn't go to UT or A&M, so to me, it's 100% white noise.
Taxes can be picked over endlessly. While property taxes appear high, here, there is no income tax, and sales tax appears to be on-par with everywhere we've lived (TX, CO, OR, NV). OR had the absolute worst taxes. Income, horrendous property tax, AND an 8% sales tax on top of it all.
Nothing like having a good year in 'the market' and then have to give the state almost 5 figures just 'cause you live there. I'll pass.
FWIW, if you want to see seas of crops, go to Saskatchewan. It makes NE and KS look like farming pre-school.
Honestly, after hearing how you felt about your own experience here, I'd say the state is better off with you gone.
OKC is horrible basically all around except housing prices. Crimes are horrible, racism is horrible..( i am caucasian) the police system is the worst...they are so low on officers citizens are having to deal with their own crimes. Schools rank as one of the lowest. and it is the overweight state of the us. The IQ of the overall state is very low and most people are all ultra ultra conservative...but if you like a liquor store and a church on EVERY corner this is your haven.....austin has culture and things for all to do....it is a liberal city and accepting of all....the police force is decent...the hospitals won't kill you like in okc....don't move to OKC....you will regret it forever...
OK, I've read between the lines. I take it you don't like OKC?
Before this thread is canned I'll say that OKC is a really nice town in my opinion, and I'm from Austin. I've never had a bad experience in OKC, have met many nice, progressive people, and the city is very clean (Austin could certainly improve in that area). Overall, I like Austin better but OKC is a nice place and getting better all the time.
I guess you've never understood sarcasm, eh? Humor, either.
We've lived at 9K feet of elevation in Park Co., CO. We'd go back in a second, if the economy in Denver were better.
Yes, OKC has more tornadoes and hail than Austin, period. Winters are colder. The heat is near equal, though it's been warmer than average this year.
Um, allergies are nearly everywhere. Even in Vegas, which is essentially desert.
In the past three years, my wife and I have been to every single continental state and ten, count 'em, ten, Canadian provinces. Texas ain't perfect, no, but you took my post much, much, MUCH too seriously.
I didn't go to UT or A&M, so to me, it's 100% white noise.
Taxes can be picked over endlessly. While property taxes appear high, here, there is no income tax, and sales tax appears to be on-par with everywhere we've lived (TX, CO, OR, NV). OR had the absolute worst taxes. Income, horrendous property tax, AND an 8% sales tax on top of it all.
Nothing like having a good year in 'the market' and then have to give the state almost 5 figures just 'cause you live there. I'll pass.
FWIW, if you want to see seas of crops, go to Saskatchewan. It makes NE and KS look like farming pre-school.
Honestly, after hearing how you felt about your own experience here, I'd say the state is better off with you gone.
It's hard to tell what's meant as humor or sarcasm when I don't even know you, plus I heard enough real hostility down there towards Oklahoma people and others that I got conditioned to that attitude. I'm glad you meant it as humor.
Allergies are a major thing in Austin; they call themselves the Allergy Capital of Texas, or even the U.S. - I heard them say it -- did not make that up.
I don't think Texas cares whether I'm there or not. For the record, I was thrilled to move to TX cause I needed a change and had friends in Austin, plus I viewed TX as a fun, happy state. After I got there, I was content for about 3 years; was planning to live there forever. I read everything I could get my hands on about Texas history and so forth, and worked on a political campaign in the summer of '94 -- some of the best fun I ever had.
My taxes on a 1700 sq. ft. home in south Austin were almost 2K. Then I moved to Sun City Georgetown, because I felt it would be a secure, safe place to have a house when I was gone traveling. The property taxes were $2800 on my 1,000 sq. ft. house there. The salespeople told buyers the taxes were real low -- they didn't disclose what the school taxes were, just the city/county ones. So much for buying a house without checking with the local tax assessor. Hey, people much smarter and financially set than I fell for it also, so I didn't beat myself up that bad. I was 52 at the time (yes, they'll let you into Sun City between 50 and 55 if you have a new house built). By the time I'd get really old, can you imagine what my taxes would have been? So after two years I hightailed it out of there and have no tax issues at all here in CO. But I still like Texas, aside from the taxes and heat. You ever heard that song "Red and Rio Grande" by Doug Supernaw? I still get emotional when I play it. So, see, you mis-judged me also. I'm just pretty passionate about the negatives and some bad memories, and your post opened up some old wounds.
Finally, I hope you can live here again someday if that's what you guys want. We have lots of Texans here as you know. The natives don't like 'em, but I do. Course, those natives, with exceptions, don't like ANYBODY who wasn't born here. They rant about the Californians now more than Texans. Park City is gorgeous, but I prefer the far Western Slope for geography and the fact this is where I vacationed most of my working life, so I'm comfortable here.
Thanks for the Saskatchewan tip -- I hope to get up there. (But I still like KS and NE .)
Last edited by FiftyFiftyAboutCO; 08-28-2008 at 08:31 AM..
50-50, I'm glad you re-posted, as I understand you better, now.
For allergies...if you think Austin is bad...stay in Dallas for a spring. I'm born-and-raised there, yet had what was effectively a 'smokers cough' from the pollen/pollution in the air. It disappeared after we moved to the high-country, but is slowly making it's home in my throat, again. I didn't even realize I did it until looking at home video from about 10 years before moving. I'm much more aware of it, since I haven't had it for a decade.
I hear you on the taxes. In OR, we had a 2K sq. ft. house, the taxes were $3500/yr., and we were borderline middle-of-nowhere. I thought there was a typo, initially. It wasn't like it was on an acre, either. Add to that an 8% state income tax, and you start to seriously reconsider living there. I know OR is better with me gone, as I really didn't like the government there...a topic for another day, or maybe not...I hope not, actually.
Granted, there was -0- sales tax, so if you had any money left over, you, and all the people who visited, didn't get taxed on goods and services.
I understand all too well about the animosity in CO against those not born there. It's almost as if you need to be a multi-generational naitive to be 'accepted'. Whatever. I have -0- accent, which works well for pretty much anywhere in the US. My wife, however, sounds like she's from small-town Texas, which Dallas was, for the most part, in the 50's-60's.
Oh, and in Saskatchewan, the fields of I think it's soy (whatever the blue-flowered plants are...I know it's not wheat), are so large, they quite literally look ocean-like if there is a light breeze. It's amazing. Not a thing between you and the horizon but a field of blue.
I understand all too well about the animosity in CO against those not born there. It's almost as if you need to be a multi-generational naitive to be 'accepted'. Whatever. I have -0- accent, which works well for pretty much anywhere in the US. My wife, however, sounds like she's from small-town Texas, which Dallas was, for the most part, in the 50's-60's.
Oh, and in Saskatchewan, the fields of I think it's soy (whatever the blue-flowered plants are...I know it's not wheat), are so large, they quite literally look ocean-like if there is a light breeze. It's amazing. Not a thing between you and the horizon but a field of blue.
Thanks for the comeback, Mckellyb.
There used to be a silly annual event at Twin Lakes, CO, over near Aspen on the east side of Independence Pass. Coloradans and Texans would go there armed with boxes of tomatoes and throw them at each other. We're talking about adults here, not 12-year olds. Some woman from the Denver area organized this thing the first year, and it continued for quite some time until issues arose over injury liability, so that was the end of it. Guess they felt it was better to quit before somebody lost an eye.
And....you've just cost me money cause it looks like I now need to make a trip to Canada, next summer maybe, to see that sea of blue -- my favorite color -- just love anything with blue flowers on it. I've seen seas of sunflowers in KS and MI, but nothing like you describe. What month is best to see that, and exactly where were you when you came upon it?
Back to the allergies for a minute......I worked in Dallas and lived in Euless from August '93 to January '95. No problem with allergies, but I've never had allergy troubles anywhere -- guess I lucked out in that dept. Had I stayed in TX longer than the 7 years, I may have developed allergies to something. They told me it takes about 5 years with most people.
Last edited by FiftyFiftyAboutCO; 08-28-2008 at 01:27 PM..
And....you've just cost me money cause it looks like I now need to make a trip to Canada, next summer maybe, to see that sea of blue -- my favorite color -- just love anything with blue flowers on it. I've seen seas of sunflowers in KS and MI, but nothing like you describe. What month is best to see that, and exactly where were you when you came upon it?
Yeah, sorry 'bout that...the cost thing. Just wait, gasoline will be back under $2 in a couple of years....
The fields of which I speak (type?) are on Manitoba 2 which is also Saskatchewan 13, both about 35-40 miles N of North Dakota. We were there in July, mid-to-late, and it was pretty amazing.
Oh, to the OP and moderators...my apologies for the thread-highjack.
Yeah, sorry 'bout that...the cost thing. Just wait, gasoline will be back under $2 in a couple of years....
The fields of which I speak (type?) are on Manitoba 2 which is also Saskatchewan 13, both about 35-40 miles N of North Dakota. We were there in July, mid-to-late, and it was pretty amazing.
Oh, to the OP and moderators...my apologies for the thread-highjack.
I'll write down those directions; thanks! N. Dakota is one of 6 states I've never been to, so I owe them a visit, then the waving fields are just over the border more or less.
I hope you're right about the gas prices coming down someday.
Now back to TX vs. OK. Course, you know why they say "Oklahoma is Okay" don't you? Cause they can't spell mediocre. I'm KIDDING, KIDDING!!!!! I love Oklahoma, I do, I do, I do.
Back on-topic, actually far-eastern OK and western Arkansas are pretty nice. Beautiful rolling hills, green everywhere, and the roads are little-used. Up in OKC, you'd be closer to it. Also, Turner Falls, just north of the TX/OK border is pretty neat.
Back OT. Fuel costs. Just watch...once China/India realize they cannot subsidize enough oil to get 10% of the population in a vehicle, oil will drop to $25/bbl. Mark this post for reference, later. What we're seeing is 1973 & 1982 all over again, merely with a different cause as the rudimentary explanation.
It boils down to 'greed is popular' and easy to execute if you have a monopoly.
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. Cedar fever? Never affected me, but if it had, I would have left the next day. 
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