I am moving out of Austin for good (Houston, Dallas: appointed, college)

[thesonofgray]

Originally Posted by Leonhardt

I need to get my life back on track instead of dealing with the high school stuff Austin is.

Could someone please elaborate on this for me? How exactly is Austin like "high school?"

[nomore07]

Originally Posted by TexasHorseLady

Just in case you were aiming that poorly aimed barb at me. Which, of course, goes to the argument ad hominem.

Not personally, no, and I apologize for the lack of clarity.

Lately I've had several coworkers who commute from as far as Georgetown, Killeen, Bastrop, Liberty Hill, etc. It seems many of them moved out of Austin years ago for various reasons and only recently began commuting here for new jobs. Hearing some of the comments, you would think they haven't set foot here since LBJ was in office

I'm as surprised to see folks driving from that far away as they are to see all the changes that have happened in the area Perhaps they should post in here... but it wouldn't be pretty to read... Several of my friends were born and raised here and have made similar comments as well. The local demographics have changed.

[theloneranger]

Originally Posted by Leonhardt

Actually, my mother is not from America. My dad is, but not my mother. So it was hard for me. Back in East Valley Phoenix (Tempe) in elementary school, they would get upset at me and my sister for our language and taught us how to speak english.

As for everyone else. Thank you for your support, I will be happy to get away from here soon. I need to get my life back on track instead of dealing with the high school stuff Austin is.



I am not as fond about Houston as other places like Arizona, Flordia, Missouri, Illinois, and Maryland.

I just do not find Houston fun for me or anything. Dallas I heard is sort of better than Houston, but I am not from Texas, so can some people give me the heads up on that?

@hippie, I do not don body art. I don't want any body art on me. I like it though, but it's just not me.

I have no idea what you are looking for in a city so I can't "give you the heads up on that." If you're looking solely for a city that's blacker than Austin, both Houston and Dallas have far more African-Americans. Otherwise, I don't know what to tell you.

[Mike78613]

Hey before you get all sad, please don't.

The market right now is plain out bad and that is everywhere!!

I am also w/ a mixed race, but yet I fit in with any color. I think Austin folks in general are really cool and you just have to come here w/ arms open.

UT, OU and ASU - it don't matter what college you come from, heck there are plenty of Aggies here in UT country!
I really do not think the advantage of hiring UT over another college is preferred what so ever!!


I think #8 is your issue! Home Sick.... that will tear you apart or anyone apart if you let it! I think when I make my move away from family and close friends here in ATX it will be sad, but I got'z to do what I got'z to do!!

Do what makes you happy.
Cheer-up buddy!~

Originally Posted by Leonhardt

I agree with mlasoff on his views why to move out of Austin. I on the other hand feel that his points are true.

I have similar to different reasons why I want to move out.

1. I do not feel comfortable with strangers here in Austin. I feel better with only a small group I know in Phoenix. And get that not everyone in Phoenix knows me. I only know 10-12 people I grew up with.

2. No one wants to hire, yet I have a resume printed out and ready to be read. But the jobs that will hire on are dead end ones like hamburger fast food joints and I am tired of trying to make minimum wage while in college. I want to make enough for myself to live on my own apartment. Just like mlasoff said in his last thread, "I think the abundance of educated people is taken advatange of by employers who pay, mostly, substandard wages." I am a educated person, but it's like the UT students or people who grew up in Austin knew most of these people that are willing to hire them on. I do not have history with people in Austin, so my chances are slim.

3. There is not any good music to my liking. I am into 80's and 90's rock, I am into old classical late 70's stuff too. From 1976-1984, 1985-1992, and 1993-2001. That's the style of music I like.

4. I miss diners as well. There are plenty in Arizona.

5. Like mlasoff said, there is no diversity in Austin. You have to be a certain religion or a certain standing (conservative or liberal). People in Austin feel that I am missing something because I am not a conservative or a liberal or in a religion which really bothers me a bit. Plus I read that in Austin there are 10.0% blacks here. I am mixed filipino and black and I feel like I am missing something being here in Austin.

6. The politeness is superficial. I agree with mlasoff on this. No one is not that nice. They hide this behind a smile that is fake and not pleasing. Why do they keep smiling at you when you realize that you know they do not mean it. I am the same as mlasoff, I am not a friendly guy when it boils down to stuff such as, "I need money for some hash, can you loan me some, good brother?" Some of the people I notice will say, "You are cool." but in the end something goes bad. I am feeling that most of how the friendly level is in Austin is very superficial. I met some *******s in Minnesota and they tell me they didn't like this part about Austin at all.

7. I do not like humidity with heat.

8. I am really homesick. I do not like some of the blacks here in Austin because they act very false and shady. Like I said earlier, Austin's politeness = superficial.

9. In Phoenix, I can easily catch Greyhound to San Diego, California and spend time on the beach and have fun. I love going to the beach. And Arizona also has snow in some parts. Austin doesn't have snow worth jack ****.

10. The "city" claims it's big. It's too small. It takes 15-18 minutes to drive from Braker Ln to Downtown Austin.

I feel I was missing a lot of things being in Austin. I wish I didn't come back here in 2006. I remembered me and my sister got here in 1993 just to live with our uncle, but realizing he is a misrable ****. I graduated high school here and left in 2002 to Miami and stayed here from 2002-2004. I was treated well there. I just wish that I wouldn't of made the big mistake of coming back to Austin ever again. I had my run here and it wasn't worth it to me.

Please do not comment in flaming remarks, just encourage me on my process moving out. And if I offend anyone in some of these reasons, then i am sorry. But, feel free to explain your side of the story.

[Leonhardt]

Originally Posted by thesonofgray

Could someone please elaborate on this for me? How exactly is Austin like "high school?"

Let me bring back a good friend's post from page 8.

Originally Posted by nomore07

But you must "fit in with the crowd" and be "cool"... watch a garage band, have a local beer, and talk about nothing. And it's all about who you knoooow. Just like in high school/college

And your question again was?

Originally Posted by thesonofgray

Could someone please elaborate on this for me? How exactly is Austin like "high school?"

@thesonofgray, You have to be "established" to run with the pack. I do not want to waste my time with such. When I do not partake in things here, it becomes a hazard for other people. They will see me as "not one of the population" and in reality, I am not originally born here. Things are so slow paced here. I am a fast action guy. I do not like slow pace stuff. Plus, I like other bands than the local ones Austin has. None of these people got to to be higher independent.

I do not get why people are trying to protect something that is not there, and I heard from people who were born and raised here said it has changed a whole lot. Some people I know moved.

Originally Posted by Mike78613

Hey before you get all sad, please don't.

The market right now is plain out bad and that is everywhere!!

I am also w/ a mixed race, but yet I fit in with any color. I think Austin folks in general are really cool and you just have to come here w/ arms open.

UT, OU and ASU - it don't matter what college you come from, heck there are plenty of Aggies here in UT country!
I really do not think the advantage of hiring UT over another college is preferred what so ever!!


I think #8 is your issue! Home Sick.... that will tear you apart or anyone apart if you let it! I think when I make my move away from family and close friends here in ATX it will be sad, but I got'z to do what I got'z to do!!

Do what makes you happy.
Cheer-up buddy!~

Well, I do think UT owns places. I know they own downtown. They own the west campus area. This is what I heard from a girl name blairly that was on yahoo. She seems stuck up a bit, but she told me this.

As for the market theory, people have been saying that to me to keep me here. I do not want to stay in Austin. I am just worn out on this city. I am too tired to deal with it. Austin is too young, too hard to deal with. I just want to fly out of here. I had my share and I grew tired of it. I need peace somewhere else.

[TexasHorseLady]

You're taking your information from an unknown girl on Yahoo?

If by "own" you mean that UT students comprise the majority of people living in the west campus area, well, yeah, that's predominantly student housing because it's right next to the university, where students want to live so they can walk to class. That would seem to be a no brainer, really.

As for having to fit in with the in crowd, there's quite a few people in the city of Austin. There's no one "in crowd". As an example, Liz Carpenter (worked for/with LBJ and Lady Bird back in the day) used to have hot tub parties at which attendees would include Lady Bird Johnson and the checkout clerk at the grocery store where Liz happened to stop to pick up refreshments for the party and got into a conversation with and liked and invited to come to the party that evening.

In my 40 years here (back to my college days when I was likely your age), I never belonged to any "in crowd" nor did I feel that there was one, particularly - a lot of groups of people with similar interests, sure, but nothing that you couldn't break into if you wanted to.

Now, what you may be talking about is something particular to UT, since quite a few of the students there are right out of high school. But UT is not Austin. It's not even a major part of Austin any longer, though it was when I came here back in 1969 when Austin was much smaller.

None of this, by the way, is to convince you to stay in Austin, but to hopefully get you to look at the real causes for the problem you're having, rather than scapegoating an entire city for them. Because if you don't, you're likely to have the same experience wherever you go, and that would be sad for you.

[readymade]

"I do not get why people are trying to protect something that is not there, and I heard from people who were born and raised here said it has changed a whole lot."

I guess it's like if you & I were at a gallary looking at a painting. I think the painting is beautiful. You don't. I'm surprised and say "What don't you like about it?"

You don't like the use of red. I happen to love the color red and say so. I'm not trying to get you to buy the painting, I'm just having a discussion about why I disagree with you.

We're then out and about. Someone says "I hear there's a painting at that gallary I thought about checking out!" and you say "Don't bother. It's an ugly painting."

I chime in "It's NOT an ugly painting! It's really nice, you totally should check it out!" Again, not trying to get you (or anyone) to buy the painting. I just have a completely different outlook on it. Why am I defending the painting? Why are you disparaging it?

Who knows. It's the way life goes. (fyi, the painting is Austin in my little story)

[nomore07]

So in other words, if he doesn't like how Austin has changed, something is wrong with him and any place he lives will be a disaster Wow

[Jennibc]

Originally Posted by nomore07

So in other words, if he doesn't like Austin, something is wrong with him and any place he lives will be a disaster

Wow. Wow.

I don't think that's what people are writing. I think they are taking note of the complaints in his original post and are challenging him to analyze whether the things upsetting him are unique to Austin. There are plenty of people for whom Austin is not good fit and they move away and have happy lives. I don't think anyone can deny that.

[nomore07]

Originally Posted by TexasHorseLady

As for having to fit in with the in crowd, there's quite a few people in the city of Austin. There's no one "in crowd". As an example, Liz Carpenter (worked for/with LBJ and Lady Bird back in the day) used to have hot tub parties at which attendees would include Lady Bird Johnson and the checkout clerk at the grocery store where Liz happened to stop to pick up refreshments for the party and got into a conversation with and liked and invited to come to the party that evening.

In my 40 years here (back to my college days when I was likely your age), I never belonged to any "in crowd" nor did I feel that there was one, particularly - a lot of groups of people with similar interests, sure, but nothing that you couldn't break into if you wanted to.

Hasn't a little time passed since then? Could it be that Austin has changed?