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07-05-2009, 10:14 PM
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Holy moley...over 100K in RR. When I moved here to Texas in 1996 I rented in RR for 6 months.. the pop then was about 34K.
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07-05-2009, 11:34 PM
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People moving to Round Rock probably makes traffic worse on I35. You ever get on I35 going North during rush hour?
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Well, the toll road does run through round rock and people probably could take that and some back roads and not really have to get on I35.
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07-06-2009, 01:52 AM
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You guys are missing something...
Who says growth is an unmitigated good thing? Especially when you see reams of tacky big box/franchise crap, overcrowded roads/road rage, and a never ending parade of newcomers that lends a permanent air of transiency about the place?.....
Austin metro has a hard enough time developing established neighborhoods as it is...is it essentially aiming for a permanent transient state?.....Don't we have enough transient metros in Florida and Arizona?.............
I mean, honestly, is fighting traffic and looking at antiseptic franchises 24/7 a desirable thing?
Personally, I'll pass.....
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07-06-2009, 03:53 PM
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I've said it a million times and I'll say it again....In our situation, it would do us absolutely no good to live downtown considering my husband commutes to Temple. It's much easier for us to live further out than closer in, and although I'm sure we are a minority out here that commute outside of Austin, still there are quite a few who do commute elsewhere.
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07-06-2009, 04:03 PM
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I haven't been around this board very long and probably missed the answer to this question....why didn't you all choose to live in Temple?
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07-06-2009, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by inthecut
You guys are missing something...
Who says growth is an unmitigated good thing? Especially when you see reams of tacky big box/franchise crap, overcrowded roads/road rage, and a never ending parade of newcomers that lends a permanent air of transiency about the place?.....
Austin metro has a hard enough time developing established neighborhoods as it is...is it essentially aiming for a permanent transient state?.....Don't we have enough transient metros in Florida and Arizona?.............
I mean, honestly, is fighting traffic and looking at antiseptic franchises 24/7 a desirable thing?
Personally, I'll pass.....
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I don't think anyone has ever said "growth is an unmitigated good thing". Growth brings with it many good things, such as a healthy economy, but it also brings with it lots of growing pains and taxes to pay for the cost of trying to support all the growth. Unfortunately it also attracts the "tacky big box/franchise crap". Which sadly must be popular otherwise people would not support those businesses.
I do wish people would try harder to live close to where they work. I think probably the worst thing for one's lifestyle is a long commute, not to mention the petroleum consumption and cost of maintaining a reliable automobile.
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07-06-2009, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CptnRn
I don't think anyone has ever said "growth is an unmitigated good thing". Growth brings with it many good things, such as a healthy economy, but it also brings with it lots of growing pains and taxes to pay for the cost of trying to support all the growth. Unfortunately it also attracts the "tacky big box/franchise crap". Which sadly must be popular otherwise people would not support those businesses.
I do wish people would try harder to live close to where they work. I think probably the worst thing for one's lifestyle is a long commute, not to mention the petroleum consumption and cost of maintaining a reliable automobile.
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Frankly, we are prob at the point where sprawl is unsustainable anyway.....simply, the financing for such a project, ala new construction/housing, new retail construction, and transportation bond issues/tax base issues is not there anymore........we HAD sprawl in the SUV/McMansion era ONLY because of cheap energy AND cheap financing...we have def lost both of those scenarios indefinitely, if not forever.....
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07-06-2009, 04:39 PM
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Frankly, we are prob at the point where sprawl is unsustainable anyway.....simply, the financing for such a project, ala new construction/housing, new retail construction, and transportation bond issues/tax base issues is not there anymore........we HAD sprawl in the SUV/McMansion era ONLY because of cheap energy AND cheap financing...we have def lost both of those scenarios indefinitely, if not forever.....
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ITC, if you wise up, buy a house, then bail out when Austin reaches 2 million people and sell the house for 200% profit, then you can move to your dream town, wherever that is. There is always a positive to unbridled growth. People who buy houses now will reap the benefits of this growth. Those who sit on the sidelines will be the ones with the most reason to complain. Say what you will about housing here, but sitting by and watching as your get priced out of not only your house, but your neighborhood is the most foolish thing you can do. Renters in south and SW Austin will feel this most immediately in the coming years. You can buy for 1600/mo, or rent for 1200/mo, then watch rent shoot up past 1600 and find out the clock had been ticking all along, but now buying is costing 2000/mo+. Call it a prediction, and then slam me for making unsubstantiated claims. Buy the proximity while you still can, then reap the rewards. Apologies for the non-sequitor, but use the growth to your advantage at least because you can't stop it.
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07-06-2009, 07:49 PM
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I haven't been around this board very long and probably missed the answer to this question....why didn't you all choose to live in Temple?
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My sister lives in Hutto and we moved here to be close to her so I could watch her kids (she paid me). When we first moved here he didn't commute into Temple. He commuted to N. Austin, around Braker Lane area. When his work truck was stolen, he lost his job of course, and his new employer turned out to be in Temple, so the commute was longer but not as long as it would be had we originally lived more central.
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07-06-2009, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by love roses
My sister lives in Hutto and we moved here to be close to her so I could watch her kids (she paid me). When we first moved here he didn't commute into Temple. He commuted to N. Austin, around Braker Lane area. When his work truck was stolen, he lost his job of course, and his new employer turned out to be in Temple, so the commute was longer but not as long as it would be had we originally lived more central.
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I see. I wouldn't advocate living central just for the sake of it. I like the neighborhoods but, of course, I'd think twice about that if it didn't make sense for me.
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