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Old 07-12-2009, 01:06 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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I went to school in Connecticut. Every morning we said the pledge. I think it was a nice thing that brought everyone together first thing in the morning after listening to the national anthem. Nationalism aside, there is value in ritual-- especially in ritual that unites us instead of constant derision.

We studied world history and US history and Connecticut history was integrated in to the US History. I think there is value in studying Texas history in Texas schools. It is a state that is rich in history, and while a couple times people have said that items weren't "..relevant to students..." in some way, if history is taught right, students learn critical thinking skills, writing and analytical skills as well as a context for who we are as a people.

The study of our (or your) own culture should not come at the expense of other cultures. I think sometimes the way Texas history is taught (I took it at UT) needs to be with more of a critical eye-- not just to build state pride, but to look at the mistakes of the past in the context of providing a better future for a rapidly changing culture.
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Old 07-12-2009, 09:21 AM
 
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I went to school in Connecticut. Every morning we said the pledge. I think it was a nice thing that brought everyone together first thing in the morning after listening to the national anthem. Nationalism aside, there is value in ritual-- especially in ritual that unites us instead of constant derision.

We studied world history and US history and Connecticut history was integrated in to the US History. I think there is value in studying Texas history in Texas schools. It is a state that is rich in history, and while a couple times people have said that items weren't "..relevant to students..." in some way, if history is taught right, students learn critical thinking skills, writing and analytical skills as well as a context for who we are as a people.

The study of our (or your) own culture should not come at the expense of other cultures. I think sometimes the way Texas history is taught (I took it at UT) needs to be with more of a critical eye-- not just to build state pride, but to look at the mistakes of the past in the context of providing a better future for a rapidly changing culture.
Respectfully and intelligently stated.
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Old 07-13-2009, 01:53 PM
 
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Troller, Troll, Troll....
please refrain from spamming garbage here in the future.
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:08 PM
 
Location: The Village
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please refrain from spamming garbage here in the future.
please refrain from spamming garbage here in the future.
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Finger-wagging is a good way to describe the list in the original post. Advocating a dangerous & reactionary blind obedience to authority is another. And no, I am not a teenager.

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Enjoy this while you can. Sure parents are a pain, school's a bother, and life is depressing. But someday you'll realize how wonderful it was to be a kid. Maybe you should start now. You're welcome.
I will never forget sitting in my mother's kitchen shortly after I turned 18 with my mother and a friend of hers (both of whom were about 45 years old at the time). After I told the woman I'd just turned 18, she remarked "It's all downhill from here!"

I remember thinking it was really sad that this woman felt like her life basically peaked during her senior year in high school. I'm 30 now and have lived on my own for 10 years. You couldn't pay me enough to go back to being a teenager, and I certainly don't feel that my life went downhill after 18.

Dealing with burned-out, power-tripping teachers all day, and then coming home to my parents who had basically gotten tired of raising kids by the time we were 10-12 years old? No thanks.
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:36 PM
 
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Finger-wagging is a good way to describe the list in the original post. Advocating a dangerous & reactionary blind obedience to authority is another. And no, I am not a teenager.
the poster of the list obviously has no clue what good parenting means.

I believe he was trying to impress more than anything else. The list would make a good recipe for raising rebellious and hostile kids who would likely become bad parents themselves later in life.
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Old 07-13-2009, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Hutto, Tx
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So would ignoring them and not setting ANY limits.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Greenville, Delaware
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As with so many things, the happy medium might lie somewhere between austinite45 and love roses.
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Hutto, Tx
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Oh, you're so funny J/K!!!
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:13 PM
 
Location: The Village
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Nah, love roses is right.
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