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Old 01-04-2011, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Melbourne oz
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I like many other consumers in oz are revolting! I am sick and tired of shops in oz being overpriced goods not enough choices old stock or have to wait months for stock plus add bad customer service into the mix (with crowds, car parking etc) In fact it was online shopping which started to get me thinking about moving to the USA! So how many people here shop online? What are your fav stores? Mine are JC Penny, Dr Jays (a hip hop shop in New York), Amazon. Oh and cant forget bookdepository.uk (free shipping)
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Old 01-04-2011, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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As far as the online shopping GST Exemption is concerned I back Gerry Harvey on this one.

Why should a $990 computer purchased online by an aussie from china attract no tax, while a computer at the same price with an Australian Retailer attract a 10% tax. The aussie retailer effectivly receives 10% less than the online retailer, and thats a massive competitive advantage to the online retailer.

I hate shopping, and would spend two days once a year stocking up on clothing, non perishable food (stuff i can get in) toiletries and cleaning products in Koera when we go their each year. Needles to say i am not interested in online retailing, and know nothing about the supposed lack of quality on Austrlian products.
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Old 01-04-2011, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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I am a strong advocate of internet shopping as goods here are just too expensive, especially when you start making comparisons online.

The strong Aussie dollar has certainly made internet shopping more favourable as well.

There are some items I just cannot buy online (e.g. furniture or things I need to look at or try on), but for more and more items, I purchase online now.

My wife and I had a few bad customer experiences recently that made me wonder why I should even bother shopping instore (poor staff product knowledge, sullen service, products I need seldom available, parking issues, the crowds, the time it takes etc etc).

I am slowly building up a list of reputable websites to purchase from - it grows by the day!

Also if I need to shop for my parents in NZ, I tend to visit NZ online retailers and purchase from them. As well as savings, it avoids a trip to the post office to send them my goods (and I am not a huge fan of post offices).

Much of my camera gear I buy online, plus use Amazon a lot for books (I have a Kindle which is great). Power to the consumer!

Regarding the GST component, I do not have a problem with this being added on (would still be cheaper in many cases) but not sure how the logistics behind it would be enacted....
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, BC
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It's just another way to shop - online. Whether overseas or local. Convenient and cheaper. Traditional retailers will lose some of their market but that's just progress. Film processing stores have adjusted, or lost out. Not much you can do about that. Govts can't step in every time a traditional form of doing things is threatened by new technology.

Besides, even adding 10% to online orders from overseas won't make much, if any, difference given the great exchange rates these days. Only when the AUD falls to where it should be, will online shopping from overseas retailers be less attractive. We bought two pairs of Tevas from the US a couple years ago. With postage and currency exchange then, we basically got two for the price of one. Even if 10% GST had been added, it would have been well worth it.

I love books and do a lot of reading. I can't stand paying Aussie prices, especially for hardcover non-fiction titles. Amazon is my friend. But I will check that bookdepository.uk (thanks coming2america! )

Besides, how would this 10% be collected? The logistics of it might be way more than it's worth.
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Old 01-04-2011, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Melbourne oz
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they can add the gst onto my online orders because I will still save heaps. However just to make it clear that when there is a product on an aussie site that is comparable to a us site I will buy from the aussie site first. If you want a good computer site with great bargains (and it is aussie) go to www.centrecom.com.au
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Old 01-04-2011, 09:52 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Most everything here is definitely overpriced. There was this semi-specialist book I wanted to buy. It costs $100 on the shelf here, but I got a second-hand copy for $15 not inc. postage and handling from Amazon. Pretty much everything is cheaper in the US, often by alot (musical instruments are typically half the price, for example).

That's how it is. Gerry Harvey and others need to get with the times.
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Old 01-05-2011, 12:28 AM
 
Location: Brisbane
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they can add the gst onto my online orders because I will still save heaps. However just to make it clear that when there is a product on an aussie site that is comparable to a us site I will buy from the aussie site first. If you want a good computer site with great bargains (and it is aussie) go to www.centrecom.com.au
Excellent web site thanks, buying aussie is something i always look to do.
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Old 01-05-2011, 04:04 AM
 
Location: Riachella, Victoria, Australia
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I buy stuff online regularly. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

Best buy was a makita plunge saw on tracks for $488 delivered from the UK. Best Australian online price was $700 at the time.

Seem to buy something online about once a week.

Once bought a second hand trailer on ebay which I shouldn't have bought home. Spare you the details but it wasn't as advertised. Set it up as a fire trailer so I suppose it wasn't a complete waste but I paid at least $500 to much.

Just starting to get into international airline tickets. Not sure how keen I am on them.
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Old 01-05-2011, 04:52 AM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, BC
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Just starting to get into international airline tickets. Not sure how keen I am on them.
I got some great deals on Zuji last year. $1598: Perth-Sydney-San Francisco-San Diego. Return, all taxes included, no extras. You just have to watch it regularly and jump on the good deals when they come. Plus you have to have the flexibility to travel any time.
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Old 01-05-2011, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Australia
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The way we shop is largely influenced by the large/major retailers.

Many large retailers prefer on-line selling because it gives them access to a wider audience whilst enjoying the benefits of low operational cost. They deliberably re-directed the traffic flow away from the stores and into "e-tailing" by providing discounts and incentives. In some cases, certain goods can only be purchased from their on-line site. The medical bookshop at my uni closed down last semester citing that students are opting to purchase books online, which is not completely true. We had no choice in the matter because books were cheaper by 20% if we purchased them online (from the same retailer). In addition, all of our "readings" could only be purchased online; they were simply not available at the store. It was the retailer's action which caused their own demise/downfall. Any first year Marketing student could have predicted this outcome.

I watched a program on ABC which investigated how large/major retailers blocked many small retailers from advertsing on TV. Hence, all we tend to see on TV nowadays are Harvey Norman (on sale every week; "Clayton's sale"), Woolworths, Major Banks, et al...

Alot of small/local businesses have struggled for years yet they battle on in the face of adversity.

I think it's a case of "boy who cry wolf"....
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