Aus, Kiwis not wanted in Croatia

[minibrings]

Originally Posted by Vichel

Don't give up totally on Bali. I had that impression (crawling with drunk bogans) for years, then we went in July last year, but to Ubud. Lovely place, fantastic people. Well worth a visit, just stay away from that Kuta, Legian, Seminyak area. We were in Seminyak for a couple days on our Bali trip - huge letdown after Ubud. Seminyak felt like Tijuana. Ubud was serene, like what I wanted Bali to be.

I stayed at the Nusa Dua section, its an upscale area, far away from the drunken kiwis in Kuta. Nice and quiet. mostly older Euro tourists. Bogan kiwis flocked to Kuta.

[Woof]

We Americans have been shifting from liquor to wine and beer over the past few decades - when I was young the adults had cocktail hours before dinner, where they drank liquor on an empty stomach so it wasn't diluted. Beer and wine were just happy little drinks a notch above soda ..... sometimes beer was used to chase a shot of something hard. The WW2 generation would get liquor by the discounted cases every month as they grew older and wiser. They used to drop like flies from liver disease and car accidents.

Every year we hear fewer Ugly American stories. Nowadays Americans aren't hated for their habits overseas so much as our rightwing politics - refusing to work with other nations on climate issues, invading thirdworld countries, stealing from the poor to give to the rich, etc.

I suppose that the current bad boys of world travel live in places where they haven't downshifted as much from liquor to beer and wine.

[Spindle]

Originally Posted by Woof

We Americans have been shifting from liquor to wine and beer over the past few decades - when I was young the adults had cocktail hours before dinner, where they drank liquor on an empty stomach so it wasn't diluted. Beer and wine were just happy little drinks a notch above soda ..... sometimes beer was used to chase a shot of something hard. The WW2 generation would get liquor by the discounted cases every month as they grew older and wiser. They used to drop like flies from liver disease and car accidents.

Every year we hear fewer Ugly American stories. Nowadays Americans aren't hated for their habits overseas so much as our rightwing politics - refusing to work with other nations on climate issues, invading thirdworld countries, stealing from the poor to give to the rich, etc.

I suppose that the current bad boys of world travel live in places where they haven't downshifted as much from liquor to beer and wine.

Not that I'm claiming that those Americans whom are travelling aren't behaving better now, but the *ahem* particular demographic of those who are usually a bit rowdy probably aren't travelling outside the U.S as frequently given the state of the U.S dollar. Australia's dollar is strong, hence so many are travelling overseas.

[Woof]

Makes sense to me.