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Old 04-05-2012, 11:45 AM
 
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what this comes down to is slave labour and consumerism....what needs overhauling is capitalism
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Old 04-05-2012, 05:23 PM
 
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Oh, those poor lawyers, there's no place for them anywhere

But, what if i already got a career in business? I am just coming over to do my Master's. What's wrong with that?
You can do a search for what a person posts to figure out if their opinions on what you should do with your career should be discounted.
do what is best for your career goals.
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Old 04-05-2012, 08:51 PM
 
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Free entry and the right to work and settle between the UK, Aus , NZ and Canada for citizen/subjects of the above countries, that would work well as we all speak English, have the same political system, health care and are Crown Realms.
That doesn't seem very beneficial to any country. We don't need unskilled migrants.
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Old 04-07-2012, 04:12 PM
 
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That doesn't seem very beneficial to any country. We don't need unskilled migrants.
Why would it matter if Aussie and Canadian truck drivers swapped jobs and countries ?

The rules for immigration from countries outside the liberal Anglosphere would stay in place.
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:37 AM
 
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Why would it matter if Aussie and Canadian truck drivers swapped jobs and countries ?

The rules for immigration from countries outside the liberal Anglosphere would stay in place.
Because unskilled labour will go to the highest paying country, making locals compete with foreigners. Let's face it, the biggest beneficiary would be NZ. Aus/UK/Can are all fairly equal, they have long queues of highly skilled migrants trying to get in, there is no need for unskilled labour migration.
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:37 PM
 
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Because unskilled labour will go to the highest paying country, making locals compete with foreigners. Let's face it, the biggest beneficiary would be NZ. Aus/UK/Can are all fairly equal, they have long queues of highly skilled migrants trying to get in, there is no need for unskilled labour migration.
Since I own a transport business I would like to put some of the so called skilled behind the wheel of 140 tonnes of rig and logs on forestry roads and see how they get on.
Sadly we seem to be getting the US disease in believing all jobs need a degree.

Yet when it comes to actual skills companies are complaining that they cannot get machinists, tool makers etc etc.

Your definition of unskilled is what, without a degree ?
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Old 04-10-2012, 12:31 AM
 
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Your definition of unskilled is what, without a degree ?
No. Having a trade is just as valuable as having a degree (from a pure income producing capacity it's probably more so in the vast majority of cases). I'd say there's probably far more unemployed, unskilled workers with a degree than there are tradespeople. With a few exceptions, a degree is not a vocational course, nor should it be. It's unfortunate that the view in Australia these days is that university is like TAFE for smarties.

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Old 04-10-2012, 06:07 PM
 
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No. Having a trade is just as valuable as having a degree (from a pure income producing capacity it's probably more so in the vast majority of cases). I'd say there's probably far more unemployed, unskilled workers with a degree than there are tradespeople. With a few exceptions, a degree is not a vocational course, nor should it be. It's unfortunate that the view in Australia these days is that university is like TAFE for smarties.
It is ?!

Agree, at the moment its a good time to have a trade in Aus..
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Old 04-10-2012, 07:05 PM
 
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It is ?!
I think so. People look at university as "what job can I do once I have this degree".
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