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Old 09-24-2012, 01:33 PM
 
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Are Ms. Gillard's personal beliefs in line with those of most Australians?
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:32 AM
 
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Are Ms. Gillard's personal beliefs in line with those of most Australians?
Well we voted her in, so obviously some people share her personal beliefs. She's an immigrant, an athiest, has no children and has never married, things that seem to be pretty "in" these days.

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Old 09-25-2012, 03:37 AM
 
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Well we voted her in, so obviously some people share her personal beliefs. She's an immigrant, an athiest, has no children and has never married, things that seem to be pretty "in" these days.
A fact clearly overlooked by the 'sink the boats' crowd. They're only opposed to immigrant if they're not Anglo.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:05 AM
 
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Well we voted her in, so obviously some people share her personal beliefs. She's an immigrant, an athiest, has no children and has never married, things that seem to be pretty "in" these days.
I thought in a parliamentary system, the PM was the party leader and not chosen by the voters.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:55 AM
 
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I thought in a parliamentary system, the PM was the party leader and not chosen by the voters.
That's the theory but in reality, who the leader does have some effect on how people vote. Witness the howls of condemnation, some of the more uneducated even went as far as to use the word coup, when K Rudd was knifed by Gillard and the "faceless men of the Labor party".
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Old 09-25-2012, 08:24 AM
 
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That's the theory but in reality, who the leader does have some effect on how people vote. Witness the howls of condemnation, some of the more uneducated even went as far as to use the word coup, when K Rudd was knifed by Gillard and the "faceless men of the Labor party".
Obviously, some people vote for the candidate as well as the party or instead of. Not as much of a personality cult here as the States, but people still like to put a face to the party.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:52 AM
 
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Well we voted her in, so obviously some people share her personal beliefs. She's an immigrant, an athiest, has no children and has never married, things that seem to be pretty "in" these days.
She regards being in a de facto relationship as the same as being married anyway - ie you don't need a piece of paper to prove your love for someone.
Most of the young generation are the same with respect to marriage, but not necessarily childless, ie you don't need to be married to have multiple kids. Have a look in your local rag at the new babies section, and see how many new babies have parents with the same surname!
The never married thing is also why she doesn't support same-sex marriage - which seems to be a 50-50 divide in Oz. Probably the only moral standing of hers I agree with.
Being an atheist would make her mainstream these days in Oz. Most Aussies are anti-religion, often citing the Catholic and Anglican church pedophilia sexual abuse cover-ups as proof, and are unable to differentiate between the different denominations -as all are just ""religious"".
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Old 09-25-2012, 03:17 PM
 
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If that's true, that's one main difference between Aussies and Americans.
Not all Australians are like that. That's probably how most people in the capital cities are, but there's still plenty, especially in Queensland, that are religious. I think Australia is more religious than the UK or Canada, as a matter of fact
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Old 09-25-2012, 03:19 PM
 
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She regards being in a de facto relationship as the same as being married anyway - ie you don't need a piece of paper to prove your love for someone.
Most of the young generation are the same with respect to marriage, but not necessarily childless, ie you don't need to be married to have multiple kids. Have a look in your local rag at the new babies section, and see how many new babies have parents with the same surname!
The never married thing is also why she doesn't support same-sex marriage - which seems to be a 50-50 divide in Oz. Probably the only moral standing of hers I agree with.
Being an atheist would make her mainstream these days in Oz. Most Aussies are anti-religion, often citing the Catholic and Anglican church pedophilia sexual abuse cover-ups as proof, and are unable to differentiate between the different denominations -as all are just ""religious"".

Americans have the same mentalities, except we tend to be "pro-religion". We have a "make your own church" mentality.
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Old 09-25-2012, 03:53 PM
 
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Not all Australians are like that. That's probably how most people in the capital cities are, but there's still plenty, especially in Queensland, that are religious. I think Australia is more religious than the UK or Canada, as a matter of fact
Its seems that Sydney is actually the religious capital of Australia, certainly the number of people reporting no religion in the city is well below the national average.

Queensland as a whole is right on the national average.
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